From owner-freebsd-questions Mon May 6 5:36:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6696437B406 for ; Mon, 6 May 2002 05:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (orb_rules@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g46CaYD0059016; Mon, 6 May 2002 14:36:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g46CaYaP059015; Mon, 6 May 2002 14:36:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 6 May 2002 14:36:34 +0200 From: Stijn Hoop To: GB Clark Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: shared library versioning in FreeBSD Message-ID: <20020506143634.A56935@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <20020506121059.A89646@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> <20020506073021.48a59f9e.gclarkii@vsservices.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <20020506073021.48a59f9e.gclarkii@vsservices.com>; from gclarkii@vsservices.com on Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:30:21AM -0500 X-Bright-Idea: Let's abolish HTML mail! Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 07:30:21AM -0500, GB Clark wrote: > On Mon, 6 May 2002 12:10:59 +0200 Stijn Hoop wrote: > > I was reading http://abicheck.sourceforge.net/intro.html, and I was > > wondering why FreeBSD doesn't keep the double digits for dynamic > > libraries (eg .so.1.2 instead of .so.1). Is there an online reference to > > a discussion about that somewhere? >=20 > I would say it is because FreeBSD does not change interfaces between major > versions. In otherwords, if you have a libc.so.4 it will work for all > programs that require a version 4 library. The internals may change, but= the > interface does not. If the interface changes, they do a major version bu= mp. Yes, that's the idea of course. But as described in the URL above, the Linux & Solaris guys bump the minor number if the library is still ABI compatible, but some additions have been made to the interface. Old applications should of course still work in that case, but new applications can make the distinction between the newer and the older version. I can't find an equivalent 'marker' for that in FreeBSD. > > Furthermore, is the mechanism to record public symbols between library > > releases, as described in the URL above, also used in FreeBSD? > >=20 > > I'm referring to the > >=20 > > PUBLIC_2: { > > symbol1, symbol2 > > } PUBLIC_1; > >=20 > > versioning, which somehow should be in the .so. I can't find it with ob= jdump > > and friends. >=20 > Not that I know of. As far as I know FreeBSD stores the library version = in > the binary and supports the concept of compatiability libraries. In other > words if your application is linked with libc.so.3, FreeBSD will look in > /usr/lib/compat for this library. Yes. > FreeBSD does not change interfaces willy-nilly Which is A Good Thing(TM). And something that some library authors would want to remember... > (Unlike GNOME...:( Sometimes they don't even bump the minor when they > change a interface. I've had to update code even when the library version > has stayed the same, NEVER had this problem with FreeBSD). It's a commonly known problem that the above project (abicheck) is trying to solve. It's a SUN-sponsored effort to make an automatic tool for keeping ABI compatability. Which is why I was interested for FreeBSD purpos= es. However it seems (to me) that FreeBSD lacks the granularity in versioning t= hat the tool requires. But I would be glad to be corrected :) > If I'm wrong about any of this, then I'm sure that Terry will be by to > correct me...:) Heh :) Thanks for the response, --Stijn --=20 I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence. There's a k= nob called `brightness', but it doesn't work." -- Gallagher --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE81njSY3r/tLQmfWcRAtJxAKCIojmWQnoolyutwFOxatAOE4u/QgCeJhJn tvOVbfXnakrhi8mZkvGWVsE= =3dV0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --G4iJoqBmSsgzjUCe-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message