From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Wed Nov 11 11:33:21 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49515A2C1AA; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:33:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from vps1.elischer.org (vps1.elischer.org [204.109.63.16]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2317E198C; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:33:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Received: from Julian-MBP3.local (50-196-156-133-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net [50.196.156.133]) (authenticated bits=0) by vps1.elischer.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id tABBXAPI092453 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 11 Nov 2015 03:33:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@freebsd.org) Subject: Re: OpenSSH HPN To: =?UTF-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=c3=b8rgrav?= , Bob Bishop References: <86io5a9ome.fsf@desk.des.no> <261DDEE0-B792-4715-A8EF-27E491122BD2@gid.co.uk> <861tby9k9s.fsf@desk.des.no> Cc: freebsd-security@freebsd.org, freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: Julian Elischer Message-ID: <56432770.7030600@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 19:33:04 +0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <861tby9k9s.fsf@desk.des.no> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 11:33:21 -0000 On 11/10/15 7:16 PM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Bob Bishop writes: >> Is removing HPN going to impact the performance of tunnelled X >> connexions? yes if your rtt is greater than about 85 mSec I don't know he details but I noticed a big difference. I had thought X wouldn't show much difference but in fact it did. At work we had to add HPN to get anything like acceptable performance on various tunnels our appliance uses. > I don't think so. It mostly affects the performance of long > unidirectional streams (file transfers) whereas the X protocol, as far > as I know, is a bidirectional exchange of relatively short messages. It > may make a difference for applications that transfer large textures... > I don't really know enough about the X protocol to say for certain, but > I am typing this in Emacs over a non-HPN SSH connection, and I regularly > tunnel Firefox between the same two machines (RHEL 7 desktop at work and > FreeBSD 10 desktop at home). > > DES