From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 28 20:07:53 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64DCD16A4DF; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:07:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from hub.org (hub.org [200.46.204.220]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4377043D46; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:07:51 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from scrappy@freebsd.org) Received: from localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1958291B01; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:07:47 -0300 (ADT) Received: from hub.org ([200.46.204.220]) by localhost (mx1.hub.org [200.46.208.251]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 86158-08; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:07:49 -0300 (ADT) Received: by hub.org (Postfix, from userid 1046) id DB8B5291B06; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:07:46 -0300 (ADT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB565291B01; Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:07:46 -0300 (ADT) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:07:46 -0300 (ADT) From: "Marc G. Fournier" X-X-Sender: freebsd@hub.org To: Brooks Davis In-Reply-To: <20060828130247.GA77702@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> Message-ID: <20060828170450.M82634@hub.org> References: <20060825233420.V82634@hub.org> <20060826112115.GG16768@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <20060826132138.H82634@hub.org> <200608261848.16513.max@love2party.net> <20060826165209.V82634@hub.org> <20060828130247.GA77702@lor.one-eyed-alien.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: Max Laier , "Marc G. Fournier" , freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BSDStats - What is involved ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:07:53 -0000 On Mon, 28 Aug 2006, Brooks Davis wrote: > While I understand (or think I understand) the motivations for this > design goal, it's contrary to allowing collection of statistics from > many people. I'd love to be able to publish data from the FreeBSD > systems (300+) at work, but unless I can do it in an anonymized > aggregate form it's not going to happen. I just can't justify leaking > that much internal configuration information given a policy of hiding it > (right or wrong and not subject to debate). If I could run my own stats > server and publish from it that might be possible. Agreggate submissions will never be possible, as it will definitely break any attempts at keeping the data 'clean' :( I do understand that we will never be able to get *everyone* reporting, but we will try as much as possible to make it easy for as many as possible to report *within* limits ... I'm going to work on an 'email submission' method in September, that would allow repoting to go *thru* one mailbox, and will include a confirmation/challenge stage *per* server though ...