From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Nov 29 6:51:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from empty1.ekahuna.com (empty1.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10F7937B41F for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 06:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pc-02 (pc02.ekahuna.com [198.144.200.197]) by empty1.ekahuna.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-0U10L2S100V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 06:51:27 -0800 From: "Philip J. Koenig" Organization: The Electric Kahuna Organization To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 06:51:26 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Am I forced to install Xfree86? Reply-To: pjklist@ekahuna.com Message-ID: <3C05DAEE.4140.1F43C46@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Speaking of the devil here.. (see below) Can someone please tell me *why* installing the port of a simple command-line ping utility (mtr, otherwise known as Matt's traceroute) requires retrieving 30MB of Xfree86 files, compiling and installing, on a machine that doesn't run X? It seems to have something to do with "gmake", which is a dependency of mtr. Am I really *that* insane wanting to build BSD boxes without X, when simple command-line utilities like that force me to install all that stuff anyway? Phil Previously I wrote: > - Sysinstall also provides no indication of package dependencies. I > am constantly taken by surprise that some package I chose to install > has a massive list of dependencies, in particular X-related packages > which are useless to me when I (frequently) setup boxes without any > sign of X-Windows. I believe it would be massively beneficial to > indicate which packages/distributions rely on ie X-Windows (or other > programs) during the selection process so we can avoid this mess. (In > the latest case I have a feeling it was my unfortunate selection of > "gtop" or "gnutop", which I assumed was just a GNU top command, but I > think it installed tons of Gnome and other GUI stuff too) (WISHLIST) -- Philip J. Koenig pjklist@ekahuna.com Electric Kahuna Systems -- Computers & Communications for the New Millenium To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message