From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jul 17 18:16:20 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id SAA06139 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:16:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from phaeton.artisoft.com (phaeton.Artisoft.COM [198.17.250.211]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA06134 for ; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:16:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from terry@localhost) by phaeton.artisoft.com (8.6.11/8.6.9) id SAA06044; Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:14:46 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199607180114.SAA06044@phaeton.artisoft.com> Subject: Re: mitsumi CD-ROM To: dennis@etinc.com (Dennis) Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:14:46 -0700 (MST) Cc: mrm@Mole.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <199607172329.TAA24670@etinc.com> from "Dennis" at Jul 17, 96 07:29:56 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@FreeBSD.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Well, I hate to defend Terry when he's so off-base, but you hardly > need the kit for FreeBSD, and it does add $25. or so. Doesn't agree with Dennis :== off-base. 8-) 8-). > There aren't enough on-board SCSIs to chose from to consider it, There are. There aren't enough commodity machines which incorporate them, though. You have to limit your choices to "working" anyway, so that brings the price up into the same ballpark. > and you're also stuck with whatever they decided to put on-board.....which > may not be as good or well-supported at the standard card. This statement is true of IDE as well. The top two IDE interface chips have *serious* flaws, trashing data when an interrupt occurs during transfer. We can downplay the value of DMA all we want to justify not using it, but when we do, we are like the fox who lost his tail in a trap and is now trying to convinve all of the other foxes that they should cut off their tails too "see how much better I look? see how sleek? see how my tail does not tangle my legs as I run from the hunter?". > The point is, if you have 50 machines that don't care much about disk speed, > there certainly is a difference in cost. If you want to get down to brass tacks, you could argue that you don't need disks for most of those machines. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers.