From nobody Sun Mar 27 20:24:21 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AB7A1A31E8F for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:24:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4dd0002a87350.aaba34c13daef8ffc3cb32028a8078aa@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KRS3j56Tzz4xVw for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 20:24:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4dd0002a87350.aaba34c13daef8ffc3cb32028a8078aa@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1648412674; x=1651004674; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info:subject:to:from:cc:reply-to; bh=u6b4IwrfAuqcoIYf1BkjFBz2VLjDQw4yrYsMBgrwCWQ=; b=jtU6nkfE6RyZSNet6s51v2BuQ0legdopgjAkZsqD854AfpTn4Fi67rpbHHYg2vv4WRm/uIKoqDSTzbUYHLieFXwDYPCxBUYuKN5ajCyje7UBhaG3ryCNEWLHn1PMMUyIGUTmtKqbekfjj71H1cXEjKevvRE/s4Aug+4fQNrOa+c= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC4xMi4xZDRkZDAwMDJhODczNTAucXVlc3Rpb25zPWZyZWVic2Qub3Jn Received: from r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.3]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 27 Mar 2022 16:24:23 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r3.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Sun, 27 Mar 2022 16:24:22 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.94.2 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1nYZQz-000PQh-NJ for questions@freebsd.org; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 21:24:21 +0100 Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 21:24:21 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food Message-Id: <20220327212421.adaee52ba708a058e5ef6bd8@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20220327132420.201da20c@archlinux> References: <38b7f44-6d54-fec6-c1f0-d3609d301687@safeport.com> <20220327132420.201da20c@archlinux> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KRS3j56Tzz4xVw X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=jtU6nkfE; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4dd0002a87350.aaba34c13daef8ffc3cb32028a8078aa@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4dd0002a87350.aaba34c13daef8ffc3cb32028a8078aa@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.68 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.990]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.995]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.191.3:received]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4dd0002a87350.aaba34c13daef8ffc3cb32028a8078aa@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4dd0002a87350.aaba34c13daef8ffc3cb32028a8078aa@email-od.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[email-od.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:24:20 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: > to get rid of X graphics issues on Linux I migrated away from AMD/ATI as > well as NVIDIA to Intel. For a lengthy period of time using Linux + > Intel was a pleasure. However, since the Intel X driver isn't maintained > anymore it's replaced by the modesettings driver. A lot of workarounds > are needed when using this driver and those do not necessarily help > very much, you e.g. might need to drop one or the other web browser. > Hardware video acceleration is tricky, even when using the obsolete > Intel driver, since not all apps are able to make usage of hardware > video acceleration. Quite so and all of this is neither Linux nor FreeBSD but rather the DRI/DRM project which does most of its development work on Linux AFAICT but is intended to be OS agnostic. Unfortunately this project has the problem of trying to play catch up with what the video card makers are doing in their Windows drivers. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith