From owner-freebsd-current Wed Feb 20 0:56:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from alcatraz.iptelecom.net.ua (alcatraz.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.224.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8130037B405 for ; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 00:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by alcatraz.iptelecom.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA58782; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:56:08 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vega.vega.com (h208.228.dialup.iptcom.net [212.9.228.208]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00554; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:56:05 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vega.vega.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g1K8tXX02149; Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:55:33 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3C7364A5.4600F8F5@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2002 10:56:05 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.79 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,uk,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Lucas Cc: current@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: more -current testers References: <20020219125011.A15871@blackhelicopters.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Lucas wrote: > > I understand that we're getting to that stage where we need more > -current testers. > > We all agree that the optimal thing would be to have hordes of very > sophisticated users who can debug problems on their own and submit > patches to fix all their issues. I would guess that we all also agree > that that's not going to happen. > > It seems that the best we can hope for is to educate some of the > braver users who are ready to take the next step and are willing to > donate some time to us. > > I'm considering doing a series of articles on testing FreeBSD-current, > including: setting up for kernel dumps, what to type at the debugger > prompt after a crash, filing a decent bug report, what to expect from > -current, and so on. I would also make it clear when to not bother > filing a bug report (i.e., "You crashed, but had no WITNESS? Sorry, > enable WITNESS & try again."). This would be (I suspect) three > articles, running about a month and a half. > > The last time I checked, I get 12-15 thousand readers for each > article. One half of one percent uptake would (hopefully) be quite a > few bug reports. Excellent idea IMO. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message