From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Aug 20 19:35:50 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 370EA16A418 for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:35:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: from py-out-1112.google.com (py-out-1112.google.com [64.233.166.178]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF96F13C4DB for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:35:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mnslinky@gmail.com) Received: by py-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id u77so2262307pyb for ; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:35:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=fFNElVIF2JpxHjjbNsLSJXinPhjrY6IHcRTCUbrTWMLJ370RWUWJsrR0kvisnbjzX0LOsa6Z9LYL2O0iqpd9mtchYr4ymbKz70sJEIxTMMAHbxSI8BaPThRic9O8FPFbpve69qBuZXq03N+VRZiU4/EqGt5JNIXzWnYEatgZL00= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:message-id:cc:content-transfer-encoding:from:subject:date:to:x-mailer; b=K2u2hRWXflg3gqklmEo4CQ7IpBq3GRX9neIVktHP7FViBT+wHT1mKabETfDwXLHPGXV1TAhD9u/PSnXwrso79CSI49GnD94nYugzkBFCVq4WOuAON8dLAio3osGgZT8Jyj/vTMUnuaU+LhwrnurBD8Vrjnxc/n2rj2ZFkmlwGG0= Received: by 10.35.84.9 with SMTP id m9mr7809231pyl.1187638549015; Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?10.0.0.14? ( [74.95.66.25]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id f24sm9223254pyh.2007.08.20.12.35.47 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 20 Aug 2007 12:35:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8cb6106e0708201218r35692760na73ba3f6a0633666@mail.gmail.com> References: <46C83C2F.3060105@fpt.vn> <20070819150415.K15146@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> <20070820004745.GB39765@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <20070820145255.GA44640@gizmo.acns.msu.edu> <8cb6106e0708201218r35692760na73ba3f6a0633666@mail.gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Eric Crist Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 14:35:43 -0500 To: josh.carroll@gmail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:52:28 +0000 Cc: Jerry McAllister , Wojciech Puchar , Sam Lawrance , vuthecuong , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: freebsd 7 release date :) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 19:35:50 -0000 On Aug 20, 2007, at 2:18 PMAug 20, 2007, Josh Carroll wrote: >> I'm not suggesting we lay out a strict timeline, as I'd much prefer >> the releases when they're ready, but simply a page saying, 'Hey, >> FreeBSD x.y release is coming soon, we're currently working on >> 'blah.'' > > Something more than what's here then? > > http://www.freebsd.org/releng/ Yes. Especially for people who aren't savvy to the mailing lists, that page contains virtually NO useful information. TBA is only useful if, at some point, it actually is announced. In addition, please point out to me if I'm wrong, there's no easy/readily- identifiable way to get to that page. RELENG isn't what I'd consider a user-friendly word. Really, I think my little rant here is more of a customer-service and marketing issue. So many people get upset when someone posts the "when's the next release" question, but there's really no end-user digestible information anywhere for those individuals to help themselves. Again, just my $.02. ----- Eric F Crist Secure Computing Networks