From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 5 12:41:36 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A569116A41F; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:41:36 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: from av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.184]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A3E43D46; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:41:35 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from martin@gneto.com) Received: by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id C4254380C9; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:41:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.92]) by av11-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A922537F42; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:41:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.2.30] (h99n2fls34o985.telia.com [213.66.202.99]) by smtp4-1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8933937E4D; Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:41:34 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4394357A.8070509@gneto.com> Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:41:30 +0100 From: Martin Nilsson User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: sv, en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20051201172828.5b25fdd4.kgunders@teamcool.net> <4390488A.9060708@wmptl.com> <20051205025818.GA62285@dragon.NUXI.org> <4393F0EF.4040204@gneto.com> <20051205090900.GA68024@dragon.NUXI.org> In-Reply-To: <20051205090900.GA68024@dragon.NUXI.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tyan alternatives cuz their support totally sucks X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 12:41:36 -0000 David O'Brien wrote: >>As a reseller we stick to the Supermicro A+ boards, they simply work, >>availability and support is also good. > > Watch out about the Supermicro H8DAR-T board - there is no FreeBSD > support of the SATA controller. Supermicro's support of even Linux for > this board totally sux. The SCSI Supermicro are fine. I know, it's the infamous Marvell chips that require a signed NDA to get specifications. I have have asked Supermicro for support but since they too are under NDA they can't do anything and just refers me to the Marvell legal dept. Just avoid Marvell chips if you are going to run anything else than Windows. It's obvious that Marvell don't want to sell to the huge BSD and Linux server market, so why should we put any effort into supporting their products for free? We don't sell the products that have these chips (not even to Windows customers), this is to teach SM to not use them :-) /Martin