From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Feb 25 08:15:14 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA12724 for freebsd-hackers-outgoing; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 08:15:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from shell.monmouth.com (pechter@shell.monmouth.com [205.231.236.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12537 for ; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 08:14:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pechter@shell.monmouth.com) Received: (from pechter@localhost) by shell.monmouth.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) id LAA17104; Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:14:27 -0500 (EST) From: Bill/Carolyn Pechter Message-Id: <199802251614.LAA17104@shell.monmouth.com> Subject: Token Ring To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 25 Feb 1998 11:14:27 -0500 (EST) Cc: kpneal@pobox.com In-Reply-To: <199802250251.SAA10719@hub.freebsd.org> from "freebsd-hackers-digest" at Feb 24, 98 06:51:02 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > At Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:50:46 -0500 "Kevin P. Neal" > wrote : > > At 07:49 PM 2/24/98 -0600, Dave Marquardt wrote: > >"Jordan K. Hubbard" writes: > >> > Token Ring is the most expensive, slowest networking protocol on the > >> > planet(*). Why wouldn't a slick, fast OS like FreeBSD support it? > > >I sure wish someone would tell IBM! :-) IBM (and perhaps some > >others--I don't quite recall) are now talking about 100 Mb/sec Token > >Ring. > > Not surprising, considering IBM. > > IBM (or at least IBM in RTP, NC) has a _huge_ Token Ring network. We're > talking networks of networks of Token Ring. Literally, there several > thousand people sitting on the Token Ring networks inside IBM. > > Token Ring isn't quite dead yet, not as long as IBM is still kicking. > - -- > XCOMM Kevin P. Neal, Junior, Comp. Sci. - House of Retrocomputing Which is why I ran Linux while inside IBM and FreeBSD elsewhere. Token Ring is needed for many environments. Johnson & Johnson's running Token Ring, most mainframe shops with IBM are Token Ring, just as most DEC and other mini shops went ethernet. I think FreeBSD should consider expanding its support in this area. FreeBSD should look at itself as a great legacy gateway. Unfortunately, Caldera's now successfully selling Linux to this market (it was their main pitch at Unix Expo this year) and IBM's done ok with OS/2 and AIX in it as well. I know Token Ring's not as sexy as gigabit ethernet -- but there's a ton out there. I can see not supporting Microchannel -- it's dead now. Hoever, 16Mb Token Ring and Switched Token Ring are out there kicking. Bill +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Bill/Carolyn Pechter | 17 Meredith Drive | Tinton Falls, New Jersey 07724 | | 908-389-3592 | Save computing history, give an old geek old hardware. | | pechter@shell.monmouth.com | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | This message brought to you by the letters PDP and the number 11. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message