From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Mar 17 1: 9: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from bamboo.verinet.com (bamboo.verinet.com [204.144.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AEAE37BDB2 for ; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 01:08:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Received: from const. (allenc.verinet.com [199.45.180.181]) by bamboo.verinet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA01706; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:08:55 -0700 Received: from verinet.com (allenc@pragma. [192.168.1.2]) by const. (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id CAA21611; Fri, 17 Mar 2000 02:08:52 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from allenc@verinet.com) Message-ID: <38D1F624.2C97055A@verinet.com> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2000 09:08:52 +0000 From: Allen Campbell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.13 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert Cc: freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: This is stupid References: <200003170129.SAA20579@usr02.primenet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert wrote: > The "image" argument is an obvious impediment. It implies that > the vendor must start with a cruddy installer and user experience > (read: non-graphical and targetted at a tech-head), and keep the > BSD style "rc" files (which are anti-component in the extreme, > since they can't imply dependency ordering, and can't be easily > added to by way of drop-in or replacement components, and in general > would not be useful for a vendor like Oracle looking to make an > install script that made the database start/stop on system boot/halt). This implies BSDI has a SYSV style boot system. If so, I second the notion that this would be an improvement. Tradition, in this case, is a lose. Cruddy or not, the current install/config software persists because nothing better has ever emerged. Not in half a decade (sysinstall.h 1.1 Apr 27, 1995.) Thanks Jordan, it's a fine bit of work, making FreeBSD accessible to hundreds of thousands despite ample `code free' criticism. -- Allen Campbell | Lurking at the bottom of the allenc@verinet.com | gravity well, getting old. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message