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Date:      Wed, 13 Nov 2013 10:33:23 -0800
From:      Sean Bruno <sean_bruno@yahoo.com>
To:        Jung-uk Kim <jkim@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        freebsd-acpi <freebsd-acpi@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Problems with amd FX 8 core and freq scaling
Message-ID:  <1384367603.98053.0.camel@powernoodle.corp.yahoo.com>
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On Mon, 2013-11-11 at 16:47 -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
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> On 2013-11-11 16:31:30 -0500, Jung-uk Kim wrote:
> > On 2013-11-11 15:26:58 -0500, Adrian Chadd wrote:
> >> On 11 November 2013 12:00, Jung-uk Kim <jkim@freebsd.org> wrote:
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> >>>=20
> >>> On 2013-11-11 13:16:47 -0500, Nicholas McKenzie wrote:
> >>>> But wouldn't this just disable frequency scaling and the
> >>>> whole point of powerd?
> >>>=20
> >>> No.  acpi_throttle (and p4tcc) controls T-state.  "Frequency=20
> >>> scaling" should be done by changing P-state.
> >=20
> >> Right.
> >=20
> >> IIRC, T-state is just for emergency temperature throttling. It=20
> >> shouldn't be used outside of that.
> >=20
> >=20
> >>>>> There have been a number of reports of throttling causing=20
> >>>>> crashes. This setting does not prevent powerd from
> >>>>> adjusting your CPU's clock, it just disables some arcane
> >>>>> feature which pre-dates the modern power management
> >>>>> methods.
> >=20
> >> .. did anyone ever figure out why crashes would be caused by=20
> >> T-state adjustment?
> >=20
> > My memory is vague but I think it was not able to reject a broken
> > FADT or _PTC table, or something like that.
>=20
> Just in case, here I attached the uncommitted (and untested) patch.
>=20
> Jung-uk Kim
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Up and running this patch now on my FX-8150.  Anything interesting that
I should gather report?

sean

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