From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jul 23 14:39:58 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05C7C16A498 for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:39:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25C313C45A for ; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:39:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.14.0/8.14.0) with ESMTP id l6NEdsj3019195 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:39:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.12.9p2/8.12.9/Submit) id l6NEdQ0t092801; Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:39:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <18084.48565.688142.945366@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:39:26 -0400 (EDT) To: Arne Schwabe In-Reply-To: <46A4BC5E.6080006@uni-paderborn.de> References: <18082.16126.915890.401438@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <46A37B6B.2050901@fnop.net> <18084.40711.665845.826349@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <46A4BC5E.6080006@uni-paderborn.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Cc: Rui Paulo , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd-current@lists.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:39:58 -0000 Arne Schwabe writes: > Andrew Gallatin schrieb: > > Rui Paulo writes: > > > > I'm about to plug the firewire disk into another box and install using > > > > make installworld DESTDIR=/firewire_disk, but this is the sort of > > > > thing that would really, really put off your typical FreeBSD would-be > > > > adopter. Is there anything we can do to fix this in the 7.0 > > > > timeframe? > > > > > > As a workaround try using a 6.2 CD. > > > > > > > > On a somewhat related note, how well does FreeBSD even work on > > > > an iMac? Can we suspend/resume SMP machines yet? > > > > > > No. > > > > Argh. Screwed at every turn. As it turns out, I can't even make my > > machine boot a "legacy" OS from a firewire disk. Both FreeBSD and > > Ubuntu lead to a "no bootable device" error when booting directly, and > > rEFIt also fails (with some interesting comments regarding how apple's > > firmware does not deal well with booting a legacy OS from firwewire). > > I ran out of time before I could shuffle MacOSX to the external drive > > to free up the internal one for FreeBSD. > > > > Oh well, back to MacOSX and dealing with X crashing every few weeks. > > > > > You could resize your hfs+ parition (diskutil) and put a small boot > parition on your internal harddisk. Works fine on my Macbook Pro (but > still not usable, missing GPU support :( ) That's an option, but I was initially reluctant to touch my internal disk. I'm also somewhat upset that the machine can boot BSD or Linux only from an internal drive. If I were to convert it to FreeBSD, then I'd be totally hosed when the internal drive dies (its really buried in an iMac). At any rate before I touch the internal disk, which GPU are you having problems with? This box has a Radeon X1600. I've heard something about ATI building their drivers with linux libs statically linked in. Is that the problem? Is there no X.org driver. Thanks, Drew