From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 5 12:50:09 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6F537B401; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:50:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D3AE43FB1; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:50:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h45Jo6Vo026252 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Mon, 5 May 2003 15:50:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9/Submit) id h45Jo5Pu026249; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:50:05 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 15:50:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200305051950.h45Jo5Pu026249@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Doug Barton In-Reply-To: <20030505052615.R2996@znfgre.qbhto.arg> References: <200305050845.h458j38c069038@grimreaper.grondar.org> <20030505121050.GC21530@madman.celabo.org> <20030505052615.R2996@znfgre.qbhto.arg> X-Spam-Score: -18.7 () IN_REP_TO,MANY_EXCLAMATIONS,QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT,REFERENCES,REPLY_WITH_QUOTES X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.33 (www . roaringpenguin . com / mimedefang) cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! Kerberos5/Heimdal now default! X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 19:50:09 -0000 < said: > I'm going to assume that as security officer you're aware of the extremely > colorful history of kerberos's many vulnerabilities. :) What ``extremely colorful history of ... vulnerabilities''? I can think of no more than five times I've had to rebuild my KDC in six years. > Also, I'm not impressed with the, "But this is kerb 5, not kerb 4" > argument, since up till recently the limited deployed base of kerb 5 has > not made it a very attractive target for hackers. Kerberos 5 is in every single Windows (>= 2000) installation in the world. It has a larger installed base than any release of FreeBSD. If there are any fundamental protocol vulnerabilities, they would be known by now. -GAWollman