From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 30 20:13:44 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1EFC106567F; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:13:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uqs@spoerlein.net) Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (cl-43.dus-01.de.sixxs.net [IPv6:2a01:198:200:2a::2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3001A8FC18; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:13:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uqs@spoerlein.net) Received: from roadrunner.spoerlein.net (e180171001.adsl.alicedsl.de [85.180.171.1]) by acme.spoerlein.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5UKBnDV054254 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:11:50 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uqs@spoerlein.net) Received: from roadrunner.spoerlein.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by roadrunner.spoerlein.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n5UJbDTx005762 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:37:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uqs@spoerlein.net) Received: (from uqs@localhost) by roadrunner.spoerlein.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n5UJbCm8005761; Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:37:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uqs@spoerlein.net) Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:37:12 +0200 From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20090630193712.GA5446@roadrunner.spoerlein.net> Mail-Followup-To: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= , "M. Warner Losh" , rwatson@freebsd.org, ed@80386.nl, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, des@des.no, rafan@freebsd.org References: <86prcl23k8.fsf@ds4.des.no> <20090630.085955.63054488.imp@bsdimp.com> <20090630.094632.195416436.imp@bsdimp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20090630.094632.195416436.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: ed@80386.nl, src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, rwatson@freebsd.org, svn-src-head@freebsd.org, des@des.no, rafan@freebsd.org Subject: Re: svn commit: r194628 - head/lib/ncurses/ncurses X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 20:13:45 -0000 On Tue, 30.06.2009 at 09:46:32 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: > Robert Watson writes: > : On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, M. Warner Losh wrote: > : > : > Last time this BBQ came up, I thought it was agreed that there would be a > : > xterm-XXX that didn't do this behavior for those folks that think the > : > current behavior is harmfully wrong... > : > : Whereas I think it's a bug in more(1)/less(1) that it tries to use those > : sequences... > > Agreed. vi too. I'll note that on Mac OS, in the xterm, you don't > see this with either... But I don't know how to undo tic(1) > formatting to get back to the raw xterm entries... For vim(1) you can use something like set t_ti= t_te= Btw, I do like the current behaviour, but if $PAGER can be coerced into not clearing screen after exit, I think more people could be persuaded. Cheers, Ulrich Spörlein -- http://www.dubistterrorist.de/