From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Oct 23 16:17:54 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C3D2C1E429 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:17:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.brinkhaus@t-online.de) Received: from mailout10.t-online.de (mailout10.t-online.de [194.25.134.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mailout00.t-online.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50BF61B2 for ; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:17:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from c.brinkhaus@t-online.de) Received: from fwd00.aul.t-online.de (fwd00.aul.t-online.de [172.20.26.147]) by mailout10.t-online.de (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AC2641EF441; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:17:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from esprimo.local (EI1TU6ZcZhm+S8LwbKkDqFOr+0nY-3TIchSQLP9V3Gma1Hamx3i1oorzeCBNuJsgV0@[217.81.155.45]) by fwd00.t-online.de with (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 encrypted) esmtp id 1byLSv-2CZX0K0; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:17:41 +0200 Received: from esprimo.local (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by esprimo.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id B882745CD8A; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:17:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from chris@localhost) by esprimo.local (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id u9NGHbHF011354; Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:17:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from chris) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:17:37 +0200 From: Christoph Brinkhaus To: Roger Marquis Cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Jive prejudices Message-ID: <20161023161737.GA6298@esprimo.local> References: <20161022181202.F36710-100000@main.put.com> <20161023155855.3F7F345CD8A@esprimo.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161023155855.3F7F345CD8A@esprimo.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.0 (2016-08-17) X-ID: EI1TU6ZcZhm+S8LwbKkDqFOr+0nY-3TIchSQLP9V3Gma1Hamx3i1oorzeCBNuJsgV0 X-TOI-MSGID: 655fff68-f7eb-4fd9-8065-0fe943f0eefd X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 16:17:54 -0000 On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 06:41:10AM -0700, Roger Marquis wrote: > Louis Epstein wrote: > > You really need to have a hands-off policy on what software people use. > > The meaning of this is unclear as anyone can still compile jive on their > own outside of the ports tree. WRT ports, they should be subject to the > same policies as base. > > The meta questions here are: A) does FreeBSD have a policy restricting > software that promotes hatred, discrimination or violence (IMO it > should) and, if so B) does jive violate that policy. I this case I have no idea why games as doom are in the ports tree. I would not miss jive and I would not miss stuff as doom, too. But where is the limit? > > Before we can have any substantive discussion of a particular port we > should have consensus on policy. Yes, this is correct. The cultures and measures what is offensive or not are different in different areas. Therefore it is difficult to find a common understanding. Kind regards, Christoph