From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 5 23:58:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D13A3106564A for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 000.fbsd@quip.cz) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (elsa.codelab.cz [94.124.105.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FE308FC17 for ; Wed, 5 Jan 2011 23:58:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elsa.codelab.cz (localhost.codelab.cz [127.0.0.1]) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED33519E02F; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:40:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.2] (ip-86-49-61-235.net.upcbroadband.cz [86.49.61.235]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by elsa.codelab.cz (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D310A19E02E; Thu, 6 Jan 2011 00:40:09 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D250159.30108@quip.cz> Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 00:40:09 +0100 From: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101123 SeaMonkey/2.0.11 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: current@freebsd.org, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ulrich_Sp=F6rlein?= References: <20110105132155.GO23329@acme.spoerlein.net> <201101051800.p05I0V7k002583@fire.js.berklix.net> <20110105194748.GS23329@acme.spoerlein.net> In-Reply-To: <20110105194748.GS23329@acme.spoerlein.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: "Julian H. Stacey" Subject: Re: RFC regarding usage of ISO 8601 throughout the tree X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:58:40 -0000 Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > On Wed, 05.01.2011 at 19:00:31 +0100, Julian H. Stacey wrote: >> Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= wrote: >>> !ACHTUNG BIKESHED ALERT! >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> With the recent changes to the committer graphs, I again was reminded >>> how much I hate the YYYY/MM/DD format (I can't help it ...). Given that >> >> I guess& hope you mean you like linear decreasing order but >> dislike '/' as a delimeter& want to swap from '/' to '-' as in ISO ? > > Exactly. > >>> this almost looks like ISO 8601, but is an unreadable variant of it, I >>> would like to aggressively change this throughout the tree. >>> >>> I'd like to start with minor stuff like share/misc/*.dot. Then probably >>> src/UPDATING, and ports/UPDATING after I've identified the consumers of >>> these docs. >> >> Do you mean you would like to swap eg src/UPDATING 20100720 to eg >> 2010-07-20 ? That would be more readable. > > Yes, I think for lists of dates like in UPDATING or automatically > generated date output like syslogd, the ISO8601 format only has > advantages. I am using ISO8601 date + time format for years in my scripts, logs etc., so it would be nice to have it on all places of FreeBSD as a standard format. I think 2010-07-20 is really readable than 20100720 or 2010/07/20 and "2011-01-06 00:03:50" is better than "Jan 6 00:03:50" (in logs) +1 Miroslav Lachman