From owner-freebsd-hackers Tue Jul 6 15: 4:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from detlev.UUCP (tex-70.camalott.com [208.229.74.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE6814E83 for ; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 15:04:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joelh@gnu.org) Received: (from joelh@localhost) by detlev.UUCP (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA13141; Tue, 6 Jul 1999 17:03:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from joelh) To: Wes Peters Cc: Bill Fumerola , "G. Adam Stanislav" , haodongpan@netease.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to start to be a hacker? References: <377DB95C.448E4227@softweyr.com> From: Joel Ray Holveck Date: 06 Jul 1999 17:03:28 -0500 In-Reply-To: Wes Peters's message of "Sat, 03 Jul 1999 01:18:52 -0600" Message-ID: <86r9ml5tcf.fsf@detlev.UUCP> Lines: 26 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>> I know the basic admin knowledge of UNIX,perl,cgi,c >>>> how to become a hacker? >>> You either are a hacker, or you are not. It is not something someone else >>> can teach you. >> This deserves a FAQ entry. What an awesome response. > But it's certainly NOT something that you just are, either. You have to > have talent, but you also have to have experience. This is most often > done by a mentor. I think the general gist was summed up in Levy[1]: "If a hacker's made, he's got to be born; but if a hacker's born, he's gonna be made." (I haven't read Levy in ages, and I am probably mangling the quote. I can't even be sure that it's from Levy. FWIW, I think the originator was either Gosper or GLS.) Cheers, joelh [1] Levy, Steven. _Hackers_. Anchor/Doubleday 1984 ISBN 0-385-19195-2 -- Joel Ray Holveck - joelh@gnu.org Fourth law of programming: Anything that can go wrong wi sendmail: segmentation violation - core dumped To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message