From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 26 16:05:01 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9AF10656ED for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:05:01 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nick-lists@netability.ie) Received: from mail.acquirer.com (mail.acquirer.com [87.198.142.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED788FC2E for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:05:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Envelope-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from sw05.inex.ie (sw05.inex.ie [193.242.111.185] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.acquirer.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7QG4rAS041371 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-CAMELLIA256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:04:53 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from nick-lists@netability.ie) Message-ID: <4A955D24.1020803@netability.ie> Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 17:04:52 +0100 From: Nick Hilliard User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.5; en-US; rv:1.9.1.1) Gecko/20090715 Thunderbird/3.0b3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "illoai@gmail.com" References: <4A94382A.5080708@stillbilde.net> <4A944612.6010107@netability.ie> <4A945216.4040603@stillbilde.net> <4A94528A.5030609@netability.ie> <4A950054.4080104@andric.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.5 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_NONE autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on muffin.acquirer.com Cc: "Svein Skogen \(listmail account\)" , Dimitry Andric , freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Our old friend, the small default layout is back... X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:05:01 -0000 On 26/08/2009 16:46, illoai@gmail.com wrote: > In addition to Novice, Standard, and Advanced, we must > prepare for the future by adding a Foot-Shoot (default / > size is 128M newfs -b 4096) and an Ubunutu option with > one massive root partition with journaling and encryption > and a swap file residing in /. You're right. My local computer shop is selling 1Tb disks for the outrageous sum of €80, and as you infer, it's a ridiculous idea to default to squandering 8 cents worth of disk space for the root partition instead of 1 cent worth of space. It's important to keep these things in perspective: look after the pennies and the pounds look after themselves. On an related issue, as the freebsd8 amd64 default install is clearly aimed at tiny, ancient installations, I have suddenly developed a pressing need for ISDN and ATM support on a new amd64 server I bought last month with 4 megs of RAM and a 5 gig disk. Can someone please pull this code back out of the attic? thanks in advance, Seriously, though, is this worth arguing? Nick (off to paint his bikeshed)