From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jun 12 23:53:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211A31065676 for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:53:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from btillman99@yahoo.com) Received: from nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [98.139.213.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B53DA8FC1B for ; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:53:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [98.139.212.152] by nm14.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2011 23:53:42 -0000 Received: from [98.139.212.236] by tm9.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2011 23:53:42 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 12 Jun 2011 23:53:42 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 71049.25331.bm@omp1045.mail.bf1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 53523 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Jun 2011 23:53:41 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1307922821; bh=XhsbLsPGStgkF+U22/bAG7z4TDy3sN1FN39QVojOUdQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=H6yz/HFmlHIYIILtlCGDlKpAT5/v7esGa5Eo0Vg9Mhb0w0NuFqS9svYnx2OwoHeZm7ZhGibSbgiyGafUQQMr8zB1Qhn5l841eRgF8RKKgErSaEUqAO8uDNGMloj97T1J5kZXrqsvH2CS+TPOTALEOxooP6zC9ga5Wbkffl6BhZs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TIhFS4nhGmodvZ0g0Z26k/Hwf921V2O3gE+pBsdnkvrcOJE2iG3NtwxVVbWdq1kBK6hn4/1PGqlXqiTZQ0UGi4DRY25MrnhI873XlhOeR+Y6fWlVY2DZLJm7Bx/eGEmkwX9b6DNGjFpLwt8xag3LBd50jvVa4FPYc31OGjFWp7M=; Message-ID: <507809.47793.qm@web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PaxC7CMVM1mGJpPsin.FM5x3ffp4migz50fbQG3Ik6DwfZ2 Hb9FJ1jsYVHK9EL6aUVouhPgKMBXxEpIYgLwTIj7M3m3lP42cvKVM30RvO3P sygr_x7et6afaZUWb6vlBFwOuKTRcjiyh5DtejUHjACFdBv0tlmGgh_FuEJQ eLLYh1U8oEAiBNAApZIWlGw5T2ZKRFGf14_j4k13LPW5xkI9PdTLWF3MMkP_ al3ZlgaWjMkPfiC3yslzU75IfarDKcsKyB7gltzdSoYitRv82hNGBT4jEzhv qD8sdUtH9XBuzWLTItckyJ9BfTyAnQRP.L8HBpES8zEqFWarPzro1EDsxWUq JPmLyePjCoUMFVoOqiTPH6JBpwskuFPR0WZtnsOQDbfhxORBHJFYWeOxQ Received: from [98.242.233.74] by web36503.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:53:41 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/570 YahooMailWebService/0.8.111.304355 References: <01E3114E-02B1-44A2-A6B6-E0AE93A95E9A@earthlink.net> <6B25F4E32F59B195428730A7@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> <646739.74431.qm@web36506.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <0776F7B0-AB3B-4224-8B97-E5058756F581@mac.com> <20110612202932.bc8e2842.freebsd@edvax.de> <9EA6D425-7C39-445A-9935-CEE9D71D7DFF@mac.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 16:53:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Tillman To: Chuck Swiger , Polytropon In-Reply-To: <9EA6D425-7C39-445A-9935-CEE9D71D7DFF@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 23:53:43 -0000 =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A=0AFrom: Chuck Swiger =0ATo: Polytropon =0ACc: FreeBSD Questions =0ASent: Sun, June 12, 2011 2:43:16 PM=0ASubjec= t: Re: Need Help Installing and Configuring Xorg=0A=0A=0A=0AI stand correct= ed. Tab Window Manager it is....either way, I use it because it's =0Ajust p= lain simple and I don't really need all the whistles and bells that come = =0Awith the other WM's. I'm still stuck with using Windows because all my b= usiness =0Ais conducted there and it's got all the bells and whistles one w= ould need.=0A=0AOn Jun 12, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Polytropon wrote:=0A>> twm do= esn't stand for "Trivial Window Manager"-- it stands=0A>> for "Tom's Window= Manager" because it was written by Tom=0A>> LaStrange on Sun-3_35 or 3_50 = hardware back around X11R1.=0A> =0A> Without any further investigation and = research, my=0A> brain seems to remember that is's (also?) called=0A> "Tab = Window Manager". Is my brain wrong here? :-)=0A=0AI went by wikipedia to do= uble-check.=0A=0AI'm right about the original name.=A0 At some point after = twm was included in the =0AX11 core distribution, later developers decided = to rename it to "Tab Window =0AManager" because they'd changed so much code= .=A0 (If they'd done it with Tom's OK, =0Athen I don't have any concern; if= they'd just renamed it themselves without =0Adiscussion with the original = author, well, I'd find that a bit tacky.)=0A=0AI remember switching from uw= m? to twm around 1990 and finding the later vastly =0Amore tolerable.=A0 Bu= t I also largely switched from X11 to Display Postscript on =0ANEXTSTEP or = Sun's OpenWin (X11+Motif+DPS extension, IIRC) around then.=0A=0ARegards,=0A= -- =0A-Chuck=0A=0A_______________________________________________=0Afreebsd= -questions@freebsd.org mailing list=0Ahttp://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/list= info/freebsd-questions=0ATo unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-question= s-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"