From owner-freebsd-current Wed Aug 25 11:51:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BBDE14C06; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:51:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id UAA22874; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:42:25 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA00709; Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:08:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199908251808.UAA00709@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Softupdates reliability? In-Reply-To: <199908251628.JAA43994@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at "Aug 25, 1999 9:28:15 am" To: freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (Rodney W. Grimes) Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:08:12 +0200 (CEST) Cc: green@FreeBSD.ORG, richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk, syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au, jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Rodney W. Grimes wrote ... > > As Rodney W. Grimes wrote ... > > > > On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Richard Tobin wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x580 Stepping=0 > > > > > The original K6-2's off the line where all 100MHz parts, it was later when > > > AMD found that some people where sticking these in 66MHz boards and trying > > > to run them with a 66MHz FSB and having troubles that AMD started to test > > > the parts for 66MHz operation, they had to make some changes in the I/O > > > buffers and then qualify a new part number and those are the ones stamped 66. > > > Aka AMD 6K86-2-P300/66 vs AMD 6K86-2-P300/100 for those who know what a > > > real AMD part number is. > > > > Rod, > > > > Do I understand you correctly that I should get a 66Mc variant for my Asus > > T2P4 because a 100Mc is unlikely to work? Or are the newer 100Mc chips also > > coping OK with 66Mc FSB? > > Yes, you stand a far better chance of making this hack work with a 66MHz > part. No the newer std parts are not designed to run with a 66MHz FSB, > you should always order them as /66. Note that AMD has stopped making > these chips due to low demand for them (with 100MHz boards <$80 USA the > price/performance is usually worth it for most folks.) The USA... your prices tend to be a lot better than ours. I could can the T2P4 but that would also mean I had to can the SIMMs (everything is DIMMs now), get an AGP videocard and can the perfectly fine Millenium II (I need the extra PCI slot quite badly) and buy a new CPU. Oh, and buy an ATX case. In the end that is quite a bit more than $80. Unfortunately. > > (I'm aware of the slight hardware hack required to make a T2P4 accept a K6-2. > > What would be the fastest K6-2 running ok with a 66 FSB? And is this > > potential upgrade worthwhile, with K6-2 going here for around 80-90$ or so?) > > I've got about 8 of the T2P4's here and I'm not going to bother with it, I must say I still like the T2P4 a alot. Works just fine for me. > they are all getting replaced with 100MHz boards... and 450MHz chips > that have now fallen to <$82 US. And I pick up 1MB L2 cache while I'm > at it :-) Yep, there are more goodies included ;) -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message