From nobody Sun Mar 27 23:32:29 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723B11A3511F for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [147.160.157.40]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "A1-48603", Issuer "A1-48603" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KRXDh3xvbz3rDw for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:32:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTPS id 22RNWTbj009979 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:32:29 GMT (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.16.1/8.16.1/Submit) with ESMTP id 22RNWTuD009976 for ; Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:32:29 GMT (envelope-from doug@safeport.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fledge.watson.org: doug owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2022 23:32:29 +0000 (UTC) From: doug@safeport.com To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food In-Reply-To: <20220327222532.da31d267c343b02207c5c991@sohara.org> Message-ID: References: <38b7f44-6d54-fec6-c1f0-d3609d301687@safeport.com> <20220327081341.ef6a08004fb6986edf1b941e@sohara.org> <20220327102810.00000e6d@seibercom.net> <20220327222532.da31d267c343b02207c5c991@sohara.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KRXDh3xvbz3rDw X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of doug@safeport.com does not designate 147.160.157.40 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=doug@safeport.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.10 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; FROM_NO_DN(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[safeport.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6405, ipnet:147.160.157.0/24, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N > The "home market" has *never* been the focus of FreeBSD and FreeBSD > has been falling behind in ... [cut] These are not the people we want to attract. I just watched a special on Marin Alsop. She knew what she wanted to be at 9. The job I wanted all my life did not exist until I was probably 17 and I did not know about it until I was 24. Due to some luck and a boss that was the only mentor I ever had, I got to do it for as long as someone signed my checks. That was of course to develop and work on operating systems. Windows and Mac are not available to the young people like me, but do know the job exists. These are the people we want to attract