From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Jul 9 11:10:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE4AD37B400; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:10:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pe4.eziba.com (mail.eziba.com [64.80.31.203]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BBD43E42; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 11:10:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jay@eziba.com) Received: from eziba.com (thelonius.eziba.com [192.168.0.31]) by pe4.eziba.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g69IAJ012764; Tue, 9 Jul 2002 14:10:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3D2B270B.2050201@eziba.com> Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 14:10:19 -0400 From: Jay Sachs User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020607 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton Cc: stan , FreeBSD Stable Mailing List , des@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ssh to remote machines problem after cvsup References: <20020708152519.O84324-100000@zoot.corp.yahoo.com> <3D2A2A60.4090807@eziba.com> <3D2B18C9.B266193A@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton wrote: > Jay Sachs wrote: >>There are those of us who consider the protocol switch a good change, > So you are free to do that on your systems. The problem is, whether you > think it's a good idea or not, it's already catching people by surprise, > and locking them out of their systems. The change should be reverted. It just seems that changes are being made in response to vocal users who read neither UPDATING nor the headsup to the -stable list. Unfortunately, when changes feel "right" to people, it's typical to remain silent; hence I voiced my preference, being a -stable tracker but non-committer. But your response begs the question: when would such a change NOT catch people by surprise? jay To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message