From owner-freebsd-bugs Tue Jan 15 9: 0: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-bugs@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5466837B400 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g0FH03U69092; Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 09:00:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200201151700.g0FH03U69092@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: Ruslan Ermilov Subject: Re: misc/33906: tic program is missing from the base FreeBSD installation Reply-To: Ruslan Ermilov Sender: owner-freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR misc/33906; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "Alexey V. Neyman" Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: misc/33906: tic program is missing from the base FreeBSD installation Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2002 18:53:06 +0200 On Tue, Jan 15, 2002 at 07:34:38PM +0300, Alexey V. Neyman wrote: > hi, there! > > On 15 January 2002 18:50, you wrote: > > All these do not count in favor of putting tip(1) back > > into the base system -- nothing in the base system uses > > tip(1) and terminfo stuff. > > I'm in no way concerned with tic(1) in particular [ by the way, didn't > you confuse tip(1) with tic(1)? ], but such position is IMHO wrong. > Bad fingers, I meant tic(1). > Nothing in base system uses jot(1), bc(1), rs(1) ... (another dozen of > utilities follow), but nevertheless they are in the base system just > because they are handy and helpful for FreeBSD users. As far as I > understand, needed sources are already in src/ tree; all that is needed > is just a layout to compile them? > These are traditional BSD utilities, and they are also user-level utilities. tic(1) is System V centric and belongs to a system management category (under System V, it's in the 1M section). FreeBSD does not, by default, have or use terminfo databases, hence there's no need for tic(1) in the base system, and least not for the general community. Those who need it for whatever reasons can install ncurses port (after it's unbroken). > PS. Do you recall recent tcpd inclusion? > Do you recall recent uucp exclusion? :-) And no, all that's is needed is not limited to a Makefile infrastructure only. tic(1) should install their output files somewhere, and FreeBSD doesn't have a placeholder for them (/usr/lib/terminfo under System V). Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message