From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 20 08:19:51 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0343DFF8; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:19:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from theravensnest.org (theraven.freebsd.your.org [216.14.102.27]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "cloud.theravensnest.org", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C72E2D00; Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:19:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [192.168.0.106] (cpc14-cmbg15-2-0-cust307.5-4.cable.virginm.net [82.26.1.52]) (authenticated bits=0) by theravensnest.org (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s9K8Jcfn087914 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:19:42 GMT (envelope-from theraven@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: theravensnest.org: Host cpc14-cmbg15-2-0-cust307.5-4.cable.virginm.net [82.26.1.52] claimed to be [192.168.0.106] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Subject: Re: Voxer using FreeBSD, BSDNow.tv interview From: David Chisnall In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 09:19:31 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <31A8D963-F8EF-4D68-9586-39EE8A7C7C5A@FreeBSD.org> References: To: Craig Rodrigues X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org, freebsd-current Current X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2014 08:19:51 -0000 On 19 Oct 2014, at 23:09, Craig Rodrigues wrote: > (2) Most devops engineers in web/mobile companies are familiar = with > Linux. Any differences between Linux and FreeBSD in > command-line > utilities are not show-stoppers, but they are annoyances. > Anything FreeBSD could do to help people used to Linux = would be > a big > help. Allan Jude even brought up my request to symlink > /bin/bash ( > = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-ports/2014-September/095483.ht= ml > ) :) I presume that most of the relevant differences are for users / = developers and not sysadmins? It's worth noting that GNU coreutils, = tar, bash, and a load of other things are in the ports repository. I = wonder if it's worth having a gnu-userland metaport, perhaps with = something like the Solaris approach of sticking them all in a different = tree so that you can just add that to the start of your PATH and have = all of the GNU tools work by default. =20 David