From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Feb 18 17:32:27 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9F8804E3 for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:32:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5CD91ACC for ; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:32:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-149-162.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.149.162]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74A5E3CD54; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 18:32:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id t1IHWMSq002198; Wed, 18 Feb 2015 18:32:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 18:32:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: jd1008 Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? Message-Id: <20150218183222.2d09d17f.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <54E3BEBA.1060801@gmail.com> References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <54E3BEBA.1060801@gmail.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: FreeBSD Users X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2015 17:32:27 -0000 On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:20:42 -0700, jd1008 wrote: > Well, Windows comprises like.... what? 90%? 95%? of > laptops and desktop computers. Is that not the case? > So it makes sense that dll's and registery would be > mentioned. But I am convinced that Unix'es and Linux'es > are also included for such infiltration. Placing software "infront" of the OS is always a good way to deal with cautious users who might simply delete the "Windows" and install an operating system on their computer. For that "target group", using the typical malware doesn't work. So putting "nasty" stuff in the disk's firmware is one of the possible ways. A different approach is to put "nasty" software in routers and printers, because unlike desktop computers, nobody(TM) really can check what's going on there, and really-nobody(TM) will load different software into those devices. So what do you get in the end? A fully programmable computer in the center of a network, and nobody cares, because the printer is happily printing, and the Internet is up. So move on, nothing to see here... :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...