From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 27 07:16:35 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD07A1065694 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:16:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from j.mckeown@ru.ac.za) Received: from b.mail.ru.ac.za (b.mail.ru.ac.za [IPv6:2001:4200:1010::25:2]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 965AA8FC1A for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:16:34 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=ru-msa; d=ru.ac.za; h=Received:From:Organization:To:Subject:Date:User-Agent:References:In-Reply-To:X-Face:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Disposition:Message-Id:X-Virus-Scanned:X-Authenticated-User; b=eAPrsMI5/0b0WpGWvB5qK2OAb/lbB4cu0x8yoe2pYkjTnck9CuhuKJg1uEv4aepZj8WNKA2iP0XF9ziCeLP1OWXQDMBmKsbHoDMvRkhqwTpPAsgnM3dwq0+SicMyAvgd; Received: from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za ([2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932]:63351) by b.mail.ru.ac.za with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1N2gIB-0001uY-7m for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:16:31 +0200 From: Jonathan McKeown Organization: Rhodes University To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:16:30 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> In-Reply-To: <4AE5F897.3000103@rawbw.com> X-Face: $@VrUx^RHy/}yu]jKf/<4T%/d|F+$j-Ol2"2J$q+%OK1]&/G_S9(=?utf-8?q?HkaQ*=60!=3FYOK=3FY!=27M=60C=0A=09aP=5C9nVPF8Q=7DCilHH8l=3B=7E!4?= =?utf-8?q?2HK6=273lg4J=7Daz?=@1Dqqh:J]M^"YPn*2IWrZON$1+G?oX3@ =?utf-8?q?k=230=0A=0954XDRg=3DYn=5FF-etwot4U=24b?=dTS{i X-Virus-Scanned: b.mail.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010::25:2) X-Authenticated-User: s0900137 from vorkosigan.ru.ac.za (2001:4200:1010:1058:219:d1ff:fe9f:a932) using auth_plaintext Subject: Re: Why is sendmail is part of the system and not a package? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 07:16:35 -0000 On Monday 26 October 2009 21:29:27 Yuri wrote: > It's in /usr/sbin/sendmail. > > How many people actually use it? Very few. > Why isn't it moved to ports? What is this anti-sendmail obsession people have? Almost everyone I've ever spoken to about why they dislike sendmail trots out a bunch of cliches based on sendmail 8.8. People, we're up to sendmail 8.14 now. Get over it! Just as a matter of interest, if you want to rip sendmail out of the base system, which MTA would you like to replace it with? Or are you suggesting the system ship with no way to handle mail? Jonathan