From owner-freebsd-questions Sun Feb 14 13:46:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA13977 for freebsd-questions-outgoing; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:46:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA13969 for ; Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:46:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA15780; Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:53:33 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990215085332.A15728@caamora.com.au> Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 08:53:32 +1100 From: jonathan michaels To: Patrick Morren Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Freebsd rel. 3.0 or 2.2.8. Mail-Followup-To: Patrick Morren , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <000001be5806$bb1f6ec0$b11d5fc3@patrick1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <000001be5806$bb1f6ec0$b11d5fc3@patrick1>; from Patrick Morren on Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 11:42:33AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Feb 14, 1999 at 11:42:33AM +0100, Patrick Morren wrote: > I want to start with FREEBSD. But in the shop I can buy rel. 3.0 or 2.2.8. freebsd v2.2.8-release is teh one to run with .. thier are a lot of things in v3-anyting that will take time to sort out. also v3.1-release is slated for release in a few weeks. but, still i don't think all the 'beginers' issues have been settled yet. > Witch release do I have to buy. freebsd v2.2.8-release would be a wise investment. after you get 2.2.8 installed and working ofr a while, gotten familiar with it -- then, upgrade over the network or get a newer cdrom distribution and go from thier. also i would recomend getting 'the complete freebsd ed2' by greg lehey. it is a good book for what it is, sort of a how to get started with lots od startup how to go about information and after that cmes the were to look for more 'advanced' information. i can recommend it as an easy read, i have some problems with reading and understaning (cognitive imperament, its called) and this book more than any other has helpen come to terms with freebsd. > Is it possible to run some programs designed for win 3.11 or win95 under > FREEBSD. it depends on what you want to do .. thier are several routes you could take. the best and most stable is to get a sun microsystems WABI licence, caldera openlinux currently sells this for about $USD95 .. it does all the ms win v3.11 386 mode and enhanced mode ms win apps. thier is a ms win emulator called bochs, it is in the ports tree. bochs is interesting in that it requires you use you own ms win v3.11 or ms win95 (ms win98, aswell. i think) you use it just like dr hedleys pcemu and the old "sco unix dosmerge". i havent run it as yet i have to find my old ms win 3.1 diskettes. it should provide a very stable platform for ms win v3.11 applications .. we as stable as ms win v3.11 and you can't ask of better then that, i suppose. also the bochs emulation is free for at home (m=noncommercial usage) and $USD25 per host in a profit making envoronment. thier is als0 a ms dos emulation and it is availabe for many (real) unicies on varipus hardware platforms and linux as well. thier is a thing called linux wine .. from what i have seen of this, well it has several years to go before it even might be usable .. it not very good, even if it is free .. it runs some win apps but isn't very reliable or stable. ps, the sun WABI is a linux port of teh original sun sparc WABI, i've heard some reliable reports that the caldera linux WABI works much better in freebsd than it does in any linux (even teh caldera one). anyway, this is my 5 cents worth .. take care regards jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message