From owner-freebsd-questions Mon Feb 18 2:38: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A5637B402 for ; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 02:38:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g1IAbur97184; Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:37:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <00e901c1b868$5469e460$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Alfred Perlstein" Cc: "FreeBSD Questions" References: <20020217143343.41758.qmail@web21104.mail.yahoo.com> <20020217173609.A25030@energyhq.homeip.net> <3C703154.91ED7FB4@mindspring.com> <20020217224724.GL12136@elvis.mu.org> <018c01c1b816$6482f5a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020218022759.GM12136@elvis.mu.org> <002d01c1b85a$12a6e720$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020218092328.GU12136@elvis.mu.org> <009a01c1b860$ae1dbc00$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <20020218100626.GV12136@elvis.mu.org> Subject: Re: in-kernel HTTP Server for FreeBSD? Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2002 11:37:54 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Alfred writes: > Afaik mainframes are for people that have > several hundred thousand or a couple of > million in the bank to toss at a problem. You get what you pay for. And if you want to play with the big boys, you have to be willing to spend the big money. Huge multinationals don't run their worldwide OLTP networks or batch operations on PCs. > While it would be nice to have that kind > of money to throw around most of us simply > don't and even if we did, for the most part > they would be a tremendous waste of capital > to throw at a startup-like venture. Then perhaps these ill-funded ventures should be more conservative in the performance goals they set. Running at redline all the time is not a good idea. > It's hard to sell someone on the idea that they > need to purchase a mainframe in order to do > scaleable load balancing or track web vistors > for hundreds of millions of visitors per day > when the current peak is looking like only > several thousand. If the current peak is several thousand, then an ordinary FreeBSD system with Apache will do. > Going out on a limb I'd be hard pressed to > find a mainframe that has an entry level cost > of five to ten thousand dollars. I'd be hard pressed to find a car that has an entry-level cost of five to ten thousand dollars, but even the smallest businesses seem to manage to buy cars. > Even at that price it's still cuts into per-unit > sales by far too much. Are these businesses running out of someone's garage, or what? > I think the lesson to be learned here is that > if you are unaware of the issues being tackled > and apparently unwilling to ask or take a hint when > refuted about them you should butt-out. Have you applied this to your comments above about mainframes? If you don't like to have people disagree with you, don't express your opinions in public venues. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message