From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Tue Dec 3 16:15:04 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2B811B40E3; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 16:15:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-f196.google.com (mail-il1-f196.google.com [209.85.166.196]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47S6Wq5BPCz4Ymb; Tue, 3 Dec 2019 16:15:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-f196.google.com with SMTP id b15so3653903ila.7; Tue, 03 Dec 2019 08:15:03 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=uPCtsf9w+LgX6hhhEeVT98G2+uD2Nlq213gXlpK/RKE=; b=JpohL/qnvIenMBGex/V3JiiIUvN8lNIpqaw86JT+leZFKCaFDp5dBkgfIAhcomsQ6I BHozbwJ3swMqYsfUeUcBuJ1jv3cJFPPmf3I4puGukVQbU7GGER4XX3sdO+AwixvYuv+g 72msM7ufUpBvYVAlsBhLN5+MAS9XvHapWhf5C4NVisAuHzTG047SmBX+KxfyitmYY3Yt XaoQW31JCStbXEx0k1nw1i/Bk/4RI0i5S3ey1iJokcJJ0oCfO56jATA5cX+lmVLipJnw 0wWvmPWh3DXxAgndyvHT+JSMYb/5PB3+KfIOaDOAuUN9G8d64MAbjHnNBM2EvdmXd5a8 9d/w== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVYFW0rZjBVAyyURmv2GERFAsjt8ah6i8FIau1+0PgaNuNmWzlD AwYWEySQGmCeyDfXiGzRqU3J2FcZmLgtVYSumuNRyxaazVM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxIytEkvrcUYotw+PVQzWd/N7bB14xwg1+V2K92d/QZrqzNBREcO/9Pjtz4+tVx/7+Y7qJxEDkSXtF1p6TpYu4= X-Received: by 2002:a92:bf0a:: with SMTP id z10mr5468843ilh.115.1575389702298; Tue, 03 Dec 2019 08:15:02 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <6d9f394c670a8426c61a3d075ffaf3e9@unrelenting.technology> In-Reply-To: <6d9f394c670a8426c61a3d075ffaf3e9@unrelenting.technology> From: Ed Maste Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 07:28:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: arm64 as Tier 1 for FreeBSD 13 To: Greg V Cc: freebsd-arch , freebsd-arm Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47S6Wq5BPCz4Ymb X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of carpeddiem@gmail.com designates 209.85.166.196 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=carpeddiem@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.03 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:209.85.128.0/17:c]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[196.166.85.209.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; IP_SCORE(-1.03)[ipnet: 209.85.128.0/17(-3.15), asn: 15169(-1.94), country: US(-0.05)]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[196.166.85.209.rep.mailspike.net : 127.0.0.17]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[emaste@freebsd.org,carpeddiem@gmail.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2019 16:15:04 -0000 On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 at 10:12, wrote: > > The Marvell/SolidRun MACCHIATObin is an affordable 4-core (Cortex A72) > with DDR4 (takes one full size DIMM), SATA, USB 3.0 and PCIe. > And most importantly, excellent firmware support (upstream EDK2+TrustedFirmware). > The PCIe is rather quirky (I really should make a proper blog post already) > but I have it working with a Radeon RX 480. > It can be a decent developer desktop if you're fine with > "2013 era ultrabook" levels of performance :D Yeah, it looks like a pretty good platform, if we can get past "quirky PCIe" to "buy x, y, z, install the image from https://..., and it will just work". I think the performance should be fine, stability and usability are more important.