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Date:      Sun, 27 Mar 2022 21:31:50 -0400
From:      Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food
Message-ID:  <772cf4b0-9e26-3126-ec4b-bd91986883dd@kicp.uchicago.edu>
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On 3/27/22 9:25 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/27/22 4:24 PM, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Mar 2022 13:24:20 +0200
>> Ralf Mardorf <ralf-mardorf@riseup.net> wrote:
>>
>>> to get rid of X graphics issues on Linux I migrated away from AMD/ATI as
>>> well as NVIDIA to Intel. For a lengthy period of time using Linux +
>>> Intel was a pleasure. However, since the Intel X driver isn't maintained
>>> anymore it's replaced by the modesettings driver. A lot of workarounds
>>> are needed when using this driver and those do not necessarily help
>>> very much, you e.g. might need to drop one or the other web browser.
>>> Hardware video acceleration is tricky, even when using the obsolete
>>> Intel driver, since not all apps are able to make usage of hardware
>>> video acceleration.
>>
>>     Quite so and all of this is neither Linux nor FreeBSD but rather
>> the DRI/DRM project which does most of its development work on Linux 
>> AFAICT
>> but is intended to be OS agnostic. Unfortunately this project has the
>> problem of trying to play catch up with what the video card makers are
>> doing in their Windows drivers.
>>
> 

Please, ignore my rant below. I figure, I have to learn reading 
carefully, before writing something.

Thank you, Steve for deep insights of all your posts, including this one 
which I ranted about without even disagreeing with your points. Shame on me.

Valeri

> NVIDIA never releases the details of their chip internals. Therefore, no 
> open source driver can [legally] be written which is capable of, say, 
> have dual screen with different screen resolutions, as there is no 
> specs/description of how video RAM is mapped... ATI had always been open 
> about chipsets' internals (don't know how things changed when developing 
> continued after AMD bought them out), and therefore open source drivers 
> were extremely good. Now, NVIDIA's [proprietary] drivers are actually 
> written by NVIDIA itself. For those systems which NVIDIA prefers. I am 
> just ranting about Steve words of Linux catching up with Windows. 
> Respectfully disagree - very first time probably disagree with Steve. 
> Usually I learn from Steve, his knowledge is incomparably deeper than mine.
> 
> Valeri



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