From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Dec 26 15:50:24 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE19916A41F for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:50:24 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: from web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com (web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com [68.142.206.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D65B743D49 for ; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:50:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from danial_thom@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 70416 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Dec 2005 15:50:22 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=gv4iqlCpvjyapaHuN9okwhO5T2u4KygfQiwMSoKM5m2SywnaVwt+QFGb8SO2Adn2pJAPgIN3p/FNdgxGUnPz4+oR2m32K9aUmgMvhMlyF4aFMw0knD1UJeww4wxbyn34KSxTdlOnwifJuImif93Fri5fCToSK7OeQtitD4wb+Ok= ; Message-ID: <20051226155022.70414.qmail@web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.46.186.215] by web33313.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:50:22 PST Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 07:50:22 -0800 (PST) From: Danial Thom To: Ted Mittelstaedt , "Winelfred G. Pasamba" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Cc: pretenda@wrgn.net, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL connections X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: danial_thom@yahoo.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:50:24 -0000 --- Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Danial Thom > [mailto:danial_thom@yahoo.com] > >Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 7:59 AM > >To: Ted Mittelstaedt; Winelfred G. Pasamba > >Cc: pretenda@wrgn.net; > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > >Subject: RE: FreeBSD router two DSL > connections > > > > > > > > > >--- Ted Mittelstaedt > >wrote: > > > >> > >> > >http://www.edimax.com/html/english/products/PRI582.htm > >> > >> "...Performs Outbound load balancing by > >> session, weight round robin or > >> traffic..." > >> > >> Note that they say by SESSION not by PACKET. > >> > >> It's marketingspeak. They are simply using > the > >> term load balancing > >> for a device that doesen't actually load > >> balance. Apparently > >> they figure that if they say "session load > >> balancing" even though > >> there is no such accepted definition, that > then > >> they are somehow not > >> lying. > >> > >> It's akin to someone saying that "FreeBSD is > a > >> kind of Linux" in a > >> sentence that uses Linux to indicate "open > >> source operating systems" > >> > >> Apparently you never heard the old saying > "A > >> grain of truth is > >> buried in all great lies" > > > >I'm not sure what your primary language is, > but > >"round robin" IS packet balancing. > > > > In an engineers treatise, perhaps. > > but this is a marketing document and your just > assuming > that they mean "per packet" they could have > easily meant > that the sessions were round-robined. > > >Suppose you have 2 "pipes": > > > >Round Robin: > > > >1 packet to pipe1 > >1 packet to pipe2 > >1 packet to pipe1 > >1 packet to pipe2 > > > >Weighted round Robin, weighted 2 to 1: > > > >1 packet to pipe1 > >1 packet to pipe1 > >1 packet to pipe2 > >1 packet to pipe1 > >1 packet to pipe1 > >1 packet to pipe2 > > > >"Per session" balancing may be useful when you > >have paths that are not very "equal". If you > load > >balance to different ISPs packets could arrive > >out of order (in fact they are likely to). > > You cannot load balance to 2 different ISPs > unless > your running BGP I already went over this. > > Does this product speak BGP? > > Ted I've seen your resume, Ted how do you get jobs? Are people hiring so incompetent? As stated, even by Ted, you have to register ALL of your addresses with ALL of your ISPs, so you can send your packets to ANYONE you want, even if they are filtering. Please stop listening to Ted. He doesnt understand this. DT __________________________________________ Yahoo! DSL – Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less. dsl.yahoo.com