From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 1 19:20:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470311065672 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:20:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: from yw-out-2324.google.com (yw-out-2324.google.com [74.125.46.29]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC25F8FC23 for ; Mon, 1 Jun 2009 19:20:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tajudd@gmail.com) Received: by yw-out-2324.google.com with SMTP id 9so4096619ywe.13 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:20:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :from:date:message-id:subject:to:content-type; bh=geW+vE80GNQoRPMFiSuPvmoLEVzUbV1vMDl+Lf7mbXI=; b=axulNOE+/nq2qbJudutJ+qTG4/ZC0bxGLyiRqhSUcV/oPfLknR5my4xk3HjQ6D8yCh iCUZ8vgNqDhnUIP0h0b8SXGZs4ImAiI5mGynVq/YzzDaoxK0MHQ+4stAH985wFoB5bBN R2TJ67CJC4aegvPV53RhxLp+2LIqnY65ZkFnA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; b=p+B0C5vX/RZV5sHJ8qEm2RGb1ADaddJQj6sDAENry0ZXDcnyI+YjtFc9GEXo9k87FC V4oVKAyL/mHW+WuGtFI9iXp2g7tCsH0If5Pq0nXgu9fJ/uEBGEPXYzSmXrAzzXLhvdNS qUREiEPqrabfJhUV0tUy6dZ1hIyMZO6ALA94s= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.35.75 with SMTP id o11mr1664959ibd.6.1243884057090; Mon, 01 Jun 2009 12:20:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <1F9F36FCD9644D4683DADAF7DD62B412@john> <200905272209.28550.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> From: Tim Judd Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2009 13:20:37 -0600 Message-ID: To: freebsd-questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Subject: Re: Stable Mail Server And Web Mail X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 19:20:58 -0000 On Fri, May 29, 2009 at 2:50 PM, Tim Judd wrote: > > > 2009/5/27 Mel Flynn > > > >> On Monday 25 May 2009 13:53:40 Zbigniew Szalbot wrote: >> > Hello, >> > >> > > Hello all , I want to install a Mail Server with Webmail, >> > > >> > > Anybody to know a good Stable Mail Server and Web Mail >> > >> > I recommend the following step-by-step instructions: >> > http://www.purplehat.org/?page_id=4 >> >> It's a detailed how-to but consider the following: >> a) With Oracle acquiring Sun, one should move to PostgreSQL where ever >> possible. >> b) Spam Assassin is a resource hog, use mail/dspam. >> c) While postfix-admin is ok for one box setup, it doesn't scale at all - >> you'll have to install it for every physical machine to manage that >> specific >> database for that box. I know of no alternatives, hence I'm rolling my >> own. >> > > > Just thought I should make a couple comments, it's not a message to change > or correct Mel's message but rather just a idea on a possible solution I > have deployed and would like input and experience/results relayed to me. > > > Put whatever MTA you want, I use postfix primarily. sendmail would work > too, but I don't know exim or qmail. > > Install OpenBSD's spamd (that works with PF, and ipfw support is early, but > there) on the host to block the (at last count) ~460k hosts and subnets that > are known spammers so your MTA doesn't even have to mess with it. > Include DNS Blacklisting support with your MTA. These are the servers that > have mistakenly sent out a spam and gotten caught. DNSBL will report to the > client that it's being blocked and how to remove it. > > > I'd love to hear success stories with this. Both pieces together work very > well, and I am still working on seeing if any spam does come through. If > spam does come through, a product like dspam or spamassassin could finish > off the job. > > > I don't have a live domain, so I can give directions if anybody's > interested. Maybe one day I'll write up an article for this. > > > I ask please - for those who are interested in trying this, to give me the > success or not-so-success stories so I can fine tune it and work out the > missing link. > > > --Tim > I just had my first answer to this setup. only roughly 5% of the volume of mail is spam. This is very acceptable given that there's no spam filter yet. and the last 5% can be cleaned up with a proper anti-spam solution, and my first anticipation would be spamd for that solution