From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Dec 18 11:52:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E8237B41A for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 11:52:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16058; Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:52:18 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20011218124903.02874100@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 12:52:11 -0700 To: Terry Lambert , Nils Holland From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: GPL nonsense: time to stop Cc: Jeremy Karlson , Craig Harding , chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3C1F9B9C.789A155E@mindspring.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20011217222907.028403b0@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20011218095233.028ea920@localhost> <20011218193510.A23697@tisys.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:40 PM 12/18/2001, Terry Lambert wrote: >Right now, there is a library which all compiled programs get linked >with in order to obtain the startup code. > >There is a special exception for this library, but in effect, all >programs are linked with this code, with the exception of the >standalone programs (boot, etc.), and the kernel. > >If the license on this code were changed, then anything compiled >with the GNU toolchain could come under the influence of the GPL, >in a future revision of the compiler, of if someone chose to use >the "or newer version" clause of the lciense. > >That said, I think this is incredibly unlikely, since the people >maintaining EGCS and glibc have already said "no" to similar >requests regarding the compiler and the "reference implementation" >of the C library. Dare we risk this? Remember, the FSF owns the code 100%. If Richard and Brad say that it to be licensed in a particular way it does not matter what anyone else would like. Their recent remarks suggest that they are merely waiting for what they feel is an opportune moment. They have stated, in a recent interview posted on Slashdot, the FSF's official stance: that programmers should not be ALLOWED to publish code under any license other than the GPL. --Brett Glass To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message