From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Mar 29 15:58:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from rain.macguire.net (sense-sea-MegaSub-1-125.oz.net [216.39.144.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4881937B405 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from roo@localhost) by rain.macguire.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g2TNw4608245; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:58:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roo) Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:58:04 -0800 From: Benjamin Krueger To: Rahul Siddharthan Cc: Terry Lambert , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: qmail (Was: Maintaining Access Control Lists ) Message-ID: <20020329155804.A7895@rain.macguire.net> References: <3CA4FA19.F72624A0@mindspring.com> <20020329235014.GA1609@lpt.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020329235014.GA1609@lpt.ens.fr>; from rsidd@online.fr on Sat, Mar 30, 2002 at 12:50:14AM +0100 X-PGP-Key: http://www.macguire.net/benjamin/public_key.asc Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Rahul Siddharthan (rsidd@online.fr) [020329 15:50]: > Terry Lambert wrote: > > Dan was wrong to claim that it wasn't a bug (I can see his reasons > > for wanting to make this claim, given his "posted reward" thing), > > Um, that reward is specifically for security holes, not for any old > bug: > > http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/guarantee.html > > The same with qmail -- > http://cr.yp.to/qmail/guarantee.html Its a charlatan's promise. He fails to define security, or bug, or anything else really, and retains the right to define it at a later time (preferably after you've already reported it). If a company were to offer to pay you for your services in finding bugs, but not define bug or security, and after many years nobody was ever able to get a successful claim out of them despite getting many submissions, it would be called Fraud. -- Benjamin Krueger "Life is far too important a thing ever to talk seriously about." - Oscar Wilde (1854 - 1900) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Send mail w/ subject 'send public key' or query for (0x251A4B18) Fingerprint = A642 F299 C1C1 C828 F186 A851 CFF0 7711 251A 4B18 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message