From owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Nov 26 16:08:27 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7E4A16A4CE for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mta11.adelphia.net (mta11.adelphia.net [68.168.78.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B920743F3F for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 16:08:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com ([68.68.113.33]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.06.05 201-253-122-130-105-20030824) with ESMTP id <20031126235826.ZJOB4878.mta13.adelphia.net@potentialtech.com> for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:58:26 -0500 Message-ID: <3FC53E21.9020709@potentialtech.com> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2003 18:58:25 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20031005 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20031126232537.24176.qmail@web13704.mail.yahoo.com> <20031126234313.GZ90881@submonkey.net> In-Reply-To: <20031126234313.GZ90881@submonkey.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: FreeBSD for Linux users X-BeenThere: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Documentation project List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2003 00:08:28 -0000 Ceri Davies wrote: > On Wed, Nov 26, 2003 at 03:25:37PM -0800, bri an wrote: > >>I am a Work-study at a University. I have allot of >>staff using Redhat. I have been working on helping >>people move to Freebsd. I have been using it for a two >>months. I would love to help in anyway. I am not very >>versed in Freebsd, But I know how to RTFM. I can be a >>great tester to see what the document needs. > > I think it needs writing. ;-) > > Seriously, on the doc team we are all long term FreeBSD users, and lack > the newcomer perspective to write this document. A list of pointers to > things that people migrating find difficult would be useful to start. I recently gave a demonstration of FreeBSD at a Linux User's Group meeting, so I have a _little_ insight. I'll put forward what I can remember here, as well as offering my assistance during the writing of such a document. 1) You'd be surprised how many hard-core Linux users drop FreeBSD just because the default shell seems to suck compared to bash. They often give up before finding out how easy it is to install bash. bash is so universal on Linux distros, that they don't even realize it's seperate from Linux and can be installed on any Unix-like system. Just explaining how to install bash and configure it for use would be a good idea. 2) The lack of an easy way to set up X during initial install seems to annoy and confuse a lot of Linux folk. Some explanation of how to install Gnome or KDE (along with kdm or gdm) would put them in a more comfortable environment in many cases. 3) Hard-core admins are confused by the fact that so much config info is in /etc/rc.conf. They're even more confused by the fact that the rest of the config is in /usr/local/etc 4) /stand/sysinstall is not known by Linux users 5) The first thing a linux -> FreeBSD user is going to want to do is install their favorite apps. A brief explanation of ports/packages as well as pointers to more information would speed things along. Hope this helps. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com