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Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 21:05:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: Chris BeHanna <behanna@zbzoom.net>
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On Sun, 22 Jul 2001, Mike Hoskins wrote:

> If you're not willing to actually read docs, regression test, stage, and
> do 'work' in general...  Well, one could argue you get the amount of
> stability you deserve.

    Heck, you have to do this with commercial software (e.g.,
Solaris), let alone with free software.

    And I repeat my comment from the last time this thread went
around:  FreeBSD's response time to critical bugs is the best I've
seen *anywhere*.

    Finally, I repeat my earlier suggestion:  a commit-free window
around midnight UTC for -STABLE (probably not a bad idea for -CURRENT
too):  if a large commit cannot be completed before the window, hold
off for 20 minutes or so until after the window, so that people can
use the -D flag to cvsup (or to cvs) to specify midnight UTC each
night without pulling something over the wire during the middle of a
large commit.

-- 
Chris BeHanna
Software Engineer                   (Remove "bogus" before responding.)
behanna@bogus.zbzoom.net
I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs.


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