From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Fri Nov 9 22:29:10 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82933110A28C for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 22:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl) Received: from mailout4.ceti.pl (mailout4.ceti.pl [62.121.128.44]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 063536AAA3 for ; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 22:29:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mailout4.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71499C0552F0C; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:21:28 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mailout1.ceti.pl Received: from mailout4.ceti.pl ([62.121.128.44]) by localhost (mailout1.ceti.pl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id MLetWNEHzB9v; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:21:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from tau1.ceti.pl (tau.ceti.pl [62.121.128.11]) by mailout4.ceti.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B7F9C0552E2D; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:21:19 +0100 (CET) Received: by tau1.ceti.pl (Postfix, from userid 3727) id 775E2960DDC; Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:21:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2018 23:21:19 +0100 From: Tomasz Rola To: Valeri Galtsev Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OT: good free email service? Message-ID: <20181109222119.GB12347@tau1.ceti.pl> References: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <58d8ccb4-bbe1-d845-ae59-81287c402187@kicp.uchicago.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 063536AAA3 X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.87 / 200.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.58)[-0.582,0]; RCVD_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.66)[0.661,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.40)[-0.398,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[ceti.pl]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[cached: tau1.ceti.pl]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[rtomek@ceti.pl,rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15541, ipnet:62.121.128.0/20, country:PL]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[rtomek@ceti.pl,rtomek@tau1.ceti.pl]; IP_SCORE(0.00)[country: PL(0.01)] X-Rspamd-Server: mx1.freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2018 22:29:10 -0000 On Fri, Nov 09, 2018 at 10:18:58AM -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > Dear All, > > I know it is an oxymoron: good free ... service ;-) > > Still, can someone recommend good free email service? I cannot. But I would start by looking for (paid) shell account - I think they usually come with email option (i.e. POP3, IMAP and SMTP). I have had a look and panix.com has a webpage. Note, I am not associated, not even a client, I have no idea if they suck or not - albeit I have hard time imagining how I could suck while giving shell accounts, because it seems rather easy (a classic UNIX service, eh?). Going after shell has a benefit - at least there is a chance you will be hosted on "something normal" or resembling UNIX to some extent. Free is not an option for me, because I am subscribed to too many mailing lists and I like it when the emails keep coming. For one or five mails a day, free might do the job. And they send spam to their free clients, because the cost of "free" account has to be paid somehow. With client-paid account, there is usually spamassassin or something and it might even catch some trash. Some other folks mention privacy. I would totally forget about anybody who tries to sell me this, for free or not (as they say, if one tells it to somebody, it is not a secret anymore and yet private email is supposed to keep it secret, hehehe - also, consider king Midas and his donkey ears). [...] > I definitely will not go with google, Microsoft, Apple. I don't have > same strong feeling about yahoo as I have bout above, but... I understand there are still some smaller players who would gladly solve your problem. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola@bigfoot.com **