From owner-cvs-all Mon May 6 22:28:46 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 914ED37B407; Mon, 6 May 2002 22:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id D8BBF816DC; Tue, 7 May 2002 14:58:34 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 7 May 2002 14:58:34 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Brooks Davis Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , chris@masto.com, jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/share/man/man4 wi.4 Message-ID: <20020507145834.P63106@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20020505.143435.103661399.imp@village.org> <20020506135655.GA67245@netmonger.net> <20020507115643.N75198@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20020506.211945.111478471.imp@village.org> <20020506222616.B1977@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20020506222616.B1977@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 6 May 2002 at 22:26:17 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 09:19:45PM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: >> In message: <20020507115643.N75198@wantadilla.lemis.com> >>> Interesting question. You only need to create an IBSS once per IBSS >>> network. I now have definitive proof that the station which creates >>> the IBSS doesn't do very much: I've taken that station out of the net, >>> and the other two machines can still talk to each other. But I can >>> see issues when more than one station creates the IBSS: the net could >>> partition itself into two different IBSSs, so I suspect we should keep >>> the distinction, though the term "master" seems less appropriate. >> >> Yes, but you need to keep recreating it from time to time, as these >> things time out. "master" will be there until you convince OpenBSD to >> change, so quit harping on that. > > My intented implementation is that adhoc will mean ibss-master in > 5.0. I think this would be *really* confusing. I can see people setting up ad-hoc interfaces on different releases with identical commands, and wondering why they can't interoperate. If we change adhoc, I think we should get rid of it altogether, not change the meaning. > If there are devices out there that are so totally broken that they > screw things up when they are allowed to create an IBSS and someone > else has done it first, we'll deal with the problem then. I don't think that's the issue. I've been using IBSS for some time, and once I knew what I was doing, I had no problems. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message