From owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org Thu May 31 23:00:40 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C15AF7DE17 for ; Thu, 31 May 2018 23:00:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from vps-mail.nomadlogic.org (mail.nomadlogic.org [IPv6:2607:f2f8:a098::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0365185A2E; Thu, 31 May 2018 23:00:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pete@nomadlogic.org) Received: from [192.168.1.208] (cpe-75-82-194-8.socal.res.rr.com [75.82.194.8]) by vps-mail.nomadlogic.org (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id f99856b2 TLS version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Thu, 31 May 2018 16:00:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [RFC] Deprecation and removal of the drm2 driver To: Oliver Pinter , Johannes Lundberg Cc: "jmaloney@ixsystems.com" , "deischen@freebsd.org" , Konstantin Belousov , freebsd-current References: <20180524160234.GD68014@FreeBSD.org> <201805241610.w4OGAAGY041280@pdx.rh.CN85.dnsmgr.net> <20180530235156.310870d0@thor.intern.walstatt.dynvpn.de> <20180531101643.GV3789@kib.kiev.ua> From: Pete Wright Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 16:00:36 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.26 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 May 2018 23:00:40 -0000 On 05/31/2018 15:34, Oliver Pinter wrote: > On Thursday, May 31, 2018, Johannes Lundberg wrote: > >> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 4:34 PM Joe Maloney >> wrote: >> >>> I personally wish that more drivers, and firmware were separated from >>> base. >>> >>> >> I'm not a committer > >> > If you are not a committer, how and why want to remove drm2 from the base > system? Johannes did not start this threat.  A committer, Niclas Zeising, did.  Johannes has stepped up and done a ton of work (along with many others, some committers and some not) to get modern intel and amd GPU's working under freebsd.  this was something that was a gaping hole in freebsd when this work started a bit over a year ago, and i'm not sure why more committers weren't embarrassed by this gap nor motivated to chip in. regardless - not sure why you'd take his comment out of context :/ the full quote was: "I'm not a committer but as I understand there's not pre-commit integration tests.. If one had that, plus that it would test build kmod ports against the pre-commit state of head as well, then maybe this would work." not really sure what's controversial about that statement which would prompt your reply - but i guess people dedicating their spare time to help create useful things for others shouldn't go unpunished. well i guess i broke my promise to ignore this bikeshed :( -p -- Pete Wright pete@nomadlogic.org @nomadlogicLA