From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat May 4 23:43:38 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA28697 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:43:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cheops.anu.edu.au (avalon@cheops.anu.edu.au [150.203.76.24]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA28585 for ; Sat, 4 May 1996 23:43:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199605050643.XAA28585@freefall.freebsd.org> Received: by cheops.anu.edu.au (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA158668579; Sun, 5 May 1996 16:42:59 +1000 From: Darren Reed Subject: Re: IPv8 Tutorial #1: Minimal IPv8 hack To: JimFleming@unety.net (Jim Fleming) Date: Sun, 5 May 1996 16:42:59 +1000 (EST) Cc: FreeBSD-hackers@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <01BB3A1E.6D3D89C0@webster.unety.net> from "Jim Fleming" at May 5, 96 01:01:42 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk In some mail from Jim Fleming, sie said: > > @ > There are macros to test the version and options bits... > @ > > @ > You have to use "&" and not "==" to make sure you > @ > are testing just one bit at a time. Only the high bit > @ > of the IPv4 version field (ip->ip_v) is used for version. > @ > @ But 4 = 0100, 6 = 0110, 8 = 1000, etc. > > Yes...and you will note that 4 and 6 both have the high > bit as 0. IPv8 takes that bit, sets it to 1 and then "borrows" > the other bits. A more accurate description would be... > > "@ But 4 = 0100, 6 = 0110, 8 = 1XXX, etc." So you want to reserve half of the IP version numbers for your own protocol ? Why are you still using IPv4 data link types (such as 0x800 for ethernet) ? That'll make your protocol safer to deploy and you won't be constrained to use any header format compatible with IPv4. > @ I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but there is an IPv6 being > @ developed by large number of people. > > I have been at this over 20 years...I am very aware of IPv6. > Have you ever seen some of the "private" opinions about > IPv6 from some of the experts that designed it...??? I followed big-internet for several years...that should answer your question. > @ Have you submitted any documentation on this to the IETF ? > > The IETF is only concerned with a small subset of the IPv8 > OuterInternet. Galaxy 0: StarGate 0: has been allocated to > the Legacy Internet. The IPv8 OuterInternet is built on the > "outside" of the Legacy Internet. Have you asked them ? I think you'll find they'll let anybody submit anything as an informational RFC or an internet-draft.