Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2014 18:35:31 +0000 From: Mark R V Murray <mark@grondar.org> To: John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> Cc: arch@freebsd.org, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: svn commit: r274739 - head/sys/mips/conf Message-ID: <30DC3E76-7737-4A55-8200-8A662811B9B7@grondar.org> In-Reply-To: <20141121092245.GI99957@funkthat.com> References: <201411200552.sAK5qnXP063073@svn.freebsd.org> <20141120084832.GE24601@funkthat.com> <AE8F2D30-7F91-4C90-B79A-D99857D8AED8@grondar.org> <20141121092245.GI99957@funkthat.com>
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> On 21 Nov 2014, at 09:22, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> wrote: >=20 > Mark Murray wrote this message on Fri, Nov 21, 2014 at 08:25 +0000: >>=20 >>> On 20 Nov 2014, at 08:48, John-Mark Gurney <jmg@funkthat.com> wrote: >>>=20 >>> Should we make random standard now? We don't live in the 90's = anymore, >>> and a system really can't function w/o randomness anymore??? >>=20 >> There is a case to be made for making it default in all/most kernel >> configs. >>=20 >> I disagree on making it compulsory in all cases, as very small = embedded >> systems can easily argue for not having it. >=20 > How will it talk w/ the out side world? w/o random, No sshd, no > https... providing randomness is a core component of a modern OS=E2=80=A6= There are many options, including telnet, rsh, rcp, http, ftp and serial = ports. > If you're really going for small embeded, you don't want FreeBSD, Who are you to tell me what I want? ;-) >> There is some compulsory infrastructure; this gets you the = ???dummy??? >> driver which just blocks and never delivers anything. >=20 > Plus, you'd need to turn off the entropy boot script among other > things=E2=80=A6 Correct. > If you can demonstrate a usable system w/o much modifications that > runs w/ the dummy interface, or no boot random, that I'll drop my > suggestion... I'll try removing random tomorrow and see what = breaks=E2=80=A6 Quite a lot will break straight out-of-the-box right now, but I bet I can get a system with working telnetd/rshd going in under an hour. M --=20 Mark R V Murray
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