From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 11:45:17 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FB80106566B for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:45:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: from ti-out-0910.google.com (ti-out-0910.google.com [209.85.142.190]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBCB68FC13 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 11:45:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from invalid.pointer@gmail.com) Received: by ti-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id u5so1905183tia.3 for ; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:45:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=En94c49uFpsic+GAU8mzZo/Mo+byJJMHgawTNoaL0jk=; b=RznVgb7PAV7xN1UAKYZwJfHZkud4pGir06cHlRwcdm2J1+03+NHyVRkDyHUC2OpCn0 nUY45flC2RpWVywRs7TlfYqeVb+VVTdKPBBYPCm3czOqRFVM661pjoMMLSiwi+AA67mc K0QQYkwx3WvUxaAa/ZdiddVeXwydgmlx6C/VA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=eb3yHxvL+jL9mv8qJ9xdygHkssnKY1DD1BhpKO+fNrwpw6Ep7wgJZnfJ1VWRArbgA3 Z8Mm3ypVj0Z7Wosu/lA+E7vFmLtbwWAmPeXY57grTRf7B7nzDCU43OebEXUB4u2n+LQu YO3qzCU3kSgTnacKr0Marj7ErtzKvp+Va0dnw= Received: by 10.110.95.11 with SMTP id s11mr4785519tib.24.1238931915553; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:45:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.1.3? ([117.196.225.127]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b7sm3659518tic.35.2009.04.05.04.45.09 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 05 Apr 2009 04:45:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <49D89A25.9070209@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 17:16:45 +0530 From: manish jain User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Paul B. Mahol" References: <49D7D92F.6000905@gmail.com> <3a142e750904050109i380d1844vffb1f0c894e1fd8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3a142e750904050109i380d1844vffb1f0c894e1fd8@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Critical : My X went down X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 11:45:17 -0000 Paul B. Mahol wrote: > On 4/5/09, manish jain wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> In attempting to unlock some Python related mysteries (which neither >> python-list nor python-help would respond to despite repeated queries), >> I found myself recursively portupgrading myself right up the xorg >> distribution. That wasn't half as bad as the fact that - after all that >> effort - X does not even start now. > > Use vesa driver instead, and direct intel driver questions to Xorg lists. > i810, driver that you used with old Xorg is abandoned and replaced with intel. > > Hello Paul, Thanks for the information. But, as for the plan of action, I think I'll go the other way round. I'll reinstall FreeBSD 7.1 from scratch and just make sure nobody ever touches my xorg setup again. I could upgrade my system, yes, but my Celeron Coppermine 800 MHz + Intel 810-based motherboard system was running just as fast as the fancy 2.0 GHz PC's at IBM where I was working last year. BTW, I seriously wish I were a billionaire so that I could help FreeBSD get rid of this X client-server nuisance forever. I have never seen anything so ill-conceived, pathetically fragmented (modular is the polite way of referring to it), inefficient and featureless. The Mission looks Impossible-3 but, for starters, I just got a job offer yesterday from a multinational where the pay is roughly 50% higher. So maybe, someday, ... :-) -- Thank you and Regards Manish Jain invalid.pointer@gmail.com +91-99830-62246 NB : Laast year I kudn't spell Software Engineer. Now I are won.