From owner-freebsd-current Mon Oct 7 18: 4:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E72537B401 for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:04:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCEF443E4A for ; Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:04:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7F8DD812F5; Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:34:42 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 8 Oct 2002 10:34:42 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Steve Kargl Cc: "M. Warner Losh" , FreeBSD-current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Removing old binaries (was: Do we still need portmap(8)?) Message-ID: <20021008010442.GD57557@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20021007063250.GF14070@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021007.112056.119814448.imp@bsdimp.com> <20021007234610.GT14070@wantadilla.lemis.com> <20021008004442.GA34414@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021008004442.GA34414@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 7 October 2002 at 17:44:42 -0700, Steve Kargl wrote: > On Tue, Oct 08, 2002 at 09:16:10AM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: >> On Monday, 7 October 2002 at 11:20:56 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: >>> In message: <20021007063250.GF14070@wantadilla.lemis.com> >>> "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" writes: >>>> It's been a while since we've used portmap(8) on -CURRENT systems. Is >>>> it still needed, or can it be removed completely? At the very least, >>>> the man page should stop claiming that it's necessary to run NFS. >>> >>> I think that we need a mtree.obsolete that goes through and deletes >>> these sorts of things as part of installworld/upgrade scripts. >> >> I think we can greatly simplify things with one firm but relatively >> bearable rule: >> >> The directories /bin, /usr/bin, /sbin, /usr/sbin, > here> are for the exclusive use of the system installer. Install >> other programs here at your peril: they will be overwritten on the >> next installation. >> >> There are then dozens of ways of finding the old files and removing >> them. I'd be inclined just to remove all files in those directories >> which are older than some file in the build tree--*after* a successful >> installation. >> >> Thoughts? >> > > What would you do about "install -C"? I think it confuses the issue rather than solving it. We're talking about removing binaries which are no longer needed, not replacing binaries that are needed. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message