From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 28 20:27:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F246816A407; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:27:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: from koef.zs64.net (koef.zs64.net [212.12.50.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEF8643CC1; Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:27:14 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) Received: (from stb@koef.zs64.net) (authenticated) by koef.zs64.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kASKQ353068580 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:26:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stb@lassitu.de) In-Reply-To: <456C229A.30108@freebsd.org> References: <41576AD6-3ADA-4DB4-8442-EA422BAC9E03@lassitu.de> <456C229A.30108@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: <9DFF6A7E-C41D-4BEB-A823-0343C9A023E8@lassitu.de> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Stefan Bethke Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 21:25:51 +0100 To: Nik Clayton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Cc: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: spamcop now completely broken? X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 20:27:20 -0000 Am 28.11.2006 um 12:50 schrieb Nik Clayton: > Stefan Bethke wrote: >> Is is just me, or has SpamCop become useless? Two weeks ago, they >> were listing apache.org, now they're listing freebsd.org... > > Someone (call them A) signs up to a FreeBSD mailing list. > > Someone else (call them B) sends spam to the same FreeBSD mailing > list. The mailing list fails to recognise this as spam, and > forwards it on to everyone else. > > "A"'s system decides that the message is spam (either > automatically, or with human involvement). "A" hasn't realised > that the message came through the list, and reports it to SpamCop. > > SpamCop lists FreeBSD.org servers as the source of the spam. > > Lather, rinse, repeat. I do understand the mechanics of how Spamcop aquired the listing, but they had managed to avoid bogus listings much better in the past. Whether the submitters have gotten worse or SpamCops filtering of submissions I don't know. Stefan -- Stefan Bethke Fon +49 170 346 0140