From nobody Mon Mar 28 06:14:09 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F19841A32A09 for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2022 06:14:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) Received: from the-host.tinka.africa (the-host.tinka.africa [105.22.37.14]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4KRj875lZwz3r0W for ; Mon, 28 Mar 2022 06:14:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mark@tinka.africa) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tinka.africa; s=tinka; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:In-Reply-To :From:References:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date:Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Cc: Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From:Resent-Sender: Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help:List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=8ejXGlgo8rI0K2+2KiTxmpRtSmbeORX6QuXf5Tb8pV0=; b=DiNBamyULCzaDN261fwq3yzsm0 7fqi0eHzVH1zVMRKiieNY72UJ335Kl6zz7k0S6jV7h9o+gsvLC8FCqIjvFqqLorCSvmbczQ8luleb 15qti5r/eGIA2ETIooXFnylJplFrjo+MQ/i9PWFyoy/RQWsqMj8IyZxC4YwL03SSt7ZoN3WA7pvq8 DJ06zXAAA5F8KmpPYToggmIUejBEvRMOZDKUqFo7i23fjDWJwsN7RGo6ovgJW9NfSfCkdY4hFbk9r ohoLGhuig0i12TnCEh6G3I+dCnKKNLYEpmlSltevECsJck/Lmz1+6HBXui9slFreq6SVhQy/j/3eY jp8a2YmA==; Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]) by the-host.tinka.africa with esmtp (Exim 4.92.1) (envelope-from ) id R9FYNM-0004F1-GU for questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 Mar 2022 08:14:10 +0200 Message-ID: <46aec23d-d454-bb15-e482-d2c470ad0a89@tinka.africa> Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2022 08:14:09 +0200 List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.15; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.7.0 Subject: Re: Using a FreeBSD desktop was somehting about dog food Content-Language: en-US To: questions@freebsd.org References: <38b7f44-6d54-fec6-c1f0-d3609d301687@safeport.com> <20220327081341.ef6a08004fb6986edf1b941e@sohara.org> <20220327102810.00000e6d@seibercom.net> <20220327222532.da31d267c343b02207c5c991@sohara.org> From: Mark Tinka In-Reply-To: <20220327222532.da31d267c343b02207c5c991@sohara.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4KRj875lZwz3r0W X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=tinka.africa header.s=tinka header.b=DiNBamyU; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=tinka.africa; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mark@tinka.africa designates 105.22.37.14 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mark@tinka.africa X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.00 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:105.22.37.14]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[tinka.africa:+]; HFILTER_HELO_2(1.00)[the-host.tinka.africa]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[tinka.africa,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:37100, ipnet:105.16.0.0/12, country:MU]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[tinka.africa:s=tinka]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mark]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 3/27/22 23:25, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > The "home market" has *never* been the focus of FreeBSD and FreeBSD > has been falling behind in it since around 1993. We've been being told that > FreeBSD is dead and been supplanted by Linux since around 1997. Strangely > the dying FreeBSD project seems to have more resources and more developers > than it did when it was the powerhouse behind Yahoo!, Hotmail, Walnut Creek > CDROM et al. > > FreeBSD makes fine servers and workstations, and has superb long > term maintainability. To me these things are more important than having > support for the latest undocumented hardware. Others have different needs > and values and make different choices. > > What would be the point of making FreeBSD indistinguishable from > Linux or MacOS or Windows or Z/OS or ... Far better that FreeBSD be what it > is and keep on doing what it does best. +1. Mark.