From owner-freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Apr 5 21:32:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1F261065674 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barney_cordoba@yahoo.com) Received: from web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com (web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com [69.147.97.121]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 464DD8FC13 for ; Sun, 5 Apr 2009 21:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from barney_cordoba@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 73900 invoked by uid 60001); 5 Apr 2009 21:32:36 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1238967156; bh=RuMlGk4vsuJPubhuisTxnMKgvyShTshtnqEpj5W2r54=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=P/llS3UpA5Qb0S9UwIZWfjjaBaR6H2Ce94p7tzLdIHmNa2+i4Rq67I8A3fBIMWxM/EwGB05WPjYnSy1rkkGTivYP7gVILqwwJ+jWh6V2MS3Q+60WbIiQK6+VRR6cfaZYSFB/LbkxGN4iQZ/5oTFZ9saFEYrmQ9IP3qYN70RBCLQ= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:Cc:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=W+IN4VS63VntDErPfLsiv3lRYwsXs6QIR96cKc2yu9mq7uEefnN3DwLKVLhPmY88U57O2ahijH02ogfl13Kw2ZzvrtTTO8XrRuk0M5u0KFum1VgFIXq2g+hHT5tdBm1yzOiA6x/f0Ls7RIzJtNbn3hKw+GPqNN8Ug/mI/paZyFc=; Message-ID: <496315.72401.qm@web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: AzBgvPAVM1na3Ij0KuHddDM6Qqwd.9SDzBv9y2iStBH2xMLkJ97NXEk4eDkEmaoaAXpAdncwOex8Tz4U2BRrxf6Gn7IFykAOFniSkGAuv7iD9HKbinhKX1GP0lQi.iS2Ku.JIO84z9yqySd0355.QdtB7B72rF2bz58PgZ.qvKVUNP3Rn3aV6uQPPS.fjRfIWOn8eb_VUQ7u3ozAcUKHNysHDX_PP2gXnP.7tx0RVEarLCmZqObbU7NA.gEmZ5wPIx.8SEvhCi6mzTpqg9j4TPNpHyBjOzoqppKmwEwpUbh77NfpEue7YLPqwsQrHfEGlNw0bDLrA8GUQRkUBw-- Received: from [98.242.222.229] by web63906.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 05 Apr 2009 14:32:36 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.7.289.1 Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 14:32:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Barney Cordoba To: Kevin Oberman In-Reply-To: <20090405212420.31A311CC50@ptavv.es.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Robert Watson , Ivan Voras Subject: Re: Advice on a multithreaded netisr patch? X-BeenThere: freebsd-net@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: barney_cordoba@yahoo.com List-Id: Networking and TCP/IP with FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 05 Apr 2009 21:32:37 -0000 --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Kevin Oberman wrote: > From: Kevin Oberman > Subject: Re: Advice on a multithreaded netisr patch? > To: barney_cordoba@yahoo.com > Cc: "Ivan Voras" , "Robert Watson" , freebsd-net@freebsd.org > Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 5:24 PM > > Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2009 10:25:41 -0700 (PDT) > > From: Barney Cordoba > > Sender: owner-freebsd-net@freebsd.org > > > > > > As an aside, why is Kip doing development on a Chelsio > card rather > > than a more mainstream product such as Intel or > Broadcom that would > > generate more widespread interest? > > Because Chelsio pays him better than the makers of the > "more mainstream" > products. And, at 10GE, Chelsio and Myricom seem to have > stronger > products than others. (Just my opinion and not that of The > US Dept. of > Energy, The university of California, or Lawrence Berkeley > National > Labs.) Sadly thats the small picture view that has plagued freebsd for the longest time. The bigger picture is that big OEMs aren't going to use chelsio cards, and big OEMs running FreeBSD instead of linux mean more testers, more hardware, more code give-backs and more money for the project. You don't really know how good or bad intel or broadcom is because you don't have good drivers for the cards. Unfortunately Intel does things ass-backwards, by putting out crap "sample" drivers that make their cards look like garbage. Maybe they are garbage, but you think they'd be a bit smarter. They can certainly afford more than Chelsio. Barney