From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Mar 18 05:47:39 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 766B227D5B5 for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 05:47:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48hzZy4Zy8z4TJj for ; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 05:47:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=lqcVHxKMjp5T76Rkuk5cwk9eSahy+aMLL6ag/CVxvMs=; b=eT7Qeo6SlyQCwmilW06zVzuRfA iWdj35egqO+O3t6HQhx61fSBX2GpGfocIWO9NGiBuebt+5xsOkI26lhgK3eECTfCmX+AeGFp/gASm +oth6PHqqAfsIHzHsUJXiQWPflzYW7mFQmM70TY8giy8dzot8JMBEfZprRwWbSl3+dFk=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.93.0.4 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jERYG-000EVt-Sj for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Wed, 18 Mar 2020 12:47:36 +0700 Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 12:47:36 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200318054736.GB55645@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200215141238.GY1879@aurora.gregv.net> <20200316110246.GB95052@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200316114638.GD1410@belspo> <20200317050226.GC19098@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200317093122.GB1183@x1> <20200317134454.GA31413@admin.sibptus.ru> <75237e0a-cc0c-511b-0ab6-5c8a6bdcd744@kicp.uchicago.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <75237e0a-cc0c-511b-0ab6-5c8a6bdcd744@kicp.uchicago.edu> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48hzZy4Zy8z4TJj X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=eT7Qeo6S; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.99)[-0.986,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.36)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.91), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2020 05:47:39 -0000 --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > >=20 > > > why? jails are so lightweight and are created almost instantly.. > >=20 > > But upgraded and updated painfully. I still see nightmares about ezjail > > on our web-hosting server. >=20 > I agree with Julien, jails are simple, slim, flexible, and convenient. Ea= sy > to update, upgrade, and migrate. I maintain over 3 dozens of jails on > several physical machines. Never had any trouble with updates or upgrades. > And mind that I build jails "by the book", using ezjail is supposed to be > even simpler, I'm baffled why you had problems with these. >=20 How do you update/upgrade a) base system and b) packages on those jails "by the book"? Please share. Is this "freebsd-update -b /jails/jail1" and "pkg -j jail1 upgrade" in thick provisioned jails (for each jail)? Or something more clever? --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJecbX4AAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0tjoH/if+bV1Hh9B3x+yxoSbCH9JK BgFQmbA0Gf00f3FlHA2Tsgmm7oJ/xcKjH/Ar/j0p2x8VxxXPC+dILLm7DWojk6eT +zw+o5aIrLhQE1AOPbE6s8CPNU4rzKefoiEjHAPwc8RClahe20vxHQC6QRMl+6kE JsAlw3mX5/4yvPuYl2lkofo7pB43gYakk05a1g472uovIDeIesjRjM0rjr99/ehQ KKIzq3XD4WzDJuDp/Z6qrUEny2VmhJkb9OB/R5SAGzhzxks/l6pd+VFExiyrReVr 0I9mysT1nI409Iuhh+acFG6pyG2mKIiSo+yhsyaB/m6EP1kCDjxG3DXdxqylv1w= =aj6R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SkvwRMAIpAhPCcCJ--