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Date:      Tue, 08 Jun 2004 20:22:58 -0400
From:      Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>
To:        Bill Webster <squarms@yahoo.com>
Cc:        freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Gnome 2.6 Installation
Message-ID:  <1086740578.28195.38.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com>
In-Reply-To: <20040608092506.40636.qmail@web90110.mail.scd.yahoo.com>
References:  <20040608092506.40636.qmail@web90110.mail.scd.yahoo.com>

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On Tue, 2004-06-08 at 05:25, Bill Webster wrote:
> Computer Uptime: 6:46PM  up 1 day, 19:27, 3 users,
> load averages: 0.96, 0.94, 0.92
>=20
> Computer Information: FreeBSD naaman.zazu.com
> 5.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE #0: Thu Jun  5
> 02:55:42
> GMT 2003
> root@wv1u.btc.adaptec.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC
>  i386
>=20
> Computer Specs:
> Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600
> Pentium III 700MHz
> 128MB RAM
> 20G HDD
>=20
> I have recently made the decision to scrap dual
> booting and convert my PC into a Gnome-based FreeBSD
> desktop home computer.  After attempting all the
> different scenarios suggested by the FreeBSD-Gnome
> docs to avoid going through the long process* of
> installing  something as large as Gnome via ports, I
> had rebuilt my installation of FreeBSD approximately 6
> times.=20
>=20
> Methods I had tried included pkg_add -r gnome2, which
> began downloading packages for gnome2.2 (already on my
> FreeBSD ISO), and the Gnome Tinderbox, which when
> using the 5.1-CURRENT PACKAGESITE was broken in many
> places.

There is no 5.1 support for GNOME anymore (this is stated on the FreeBSD
GNOME homepage), and the Tinderbox never supported 5.1.  However, if you
follow the instructions at
http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/faq2.html#q21, you should be able to
get the 5.2.1 or -CURRENT packages just fine.

>=20
> After my current rebuild, I had performed the cvsup
> procedure on my ports tree and began the process of
> building Gnome2.6 through ports.  * "long process" -
> refers to my computer's uptime displayed at the
> beginning of this message is the running time of the
> building of the Gnome port (so far), factoring in
> multiple error corrections & research.  At the time of
> writing, Mozilla is being built, which is a lengthy
> process in itself.
>=20
> My reasoning behind going to Gnome2.6 is:
> 1. I wanted the bleeding-edge.

GNOME 2.6 is really not "bleeding-edge."  It is the latest STABLE
release of the GNOME Desktop.  If you want true bleeding-edge, you will
have to upgrade to GNOME 2.7.

> 2. I wanted the near bleeding-edge Xscreensaver.

Again, 4.16 is merely the latest.  It is not development-quality code.

> 3. I attempted to install Gnome2.2 off the ISO as part
> of the initial FreeBSD setup, which was very broken.=20
> Simple things like creating a user/group combination
> of gdm/gdm were left out of the initial installation.=20
> Although, this is not an example of it being broken,
> many other things were broken.

Yes, I know.  This has since been fixed.

>=20
> I assumed that 5.1 FreeBSD would be adequately
> supported in the FreeBSD-Gnome Documentation and
> Gnome2.6 package setups. =20

Nope.  You need to be running 5.2.1 or -CURRENT to get GNOME 2.6
support.  Since 5.X are early adopter releases right now, we are only
supporting the latest 5.X version.  However, both 4.9 and 4.10 are also
supported.

>=20
> The aim of this message is to ask for basic testing to
> be performed and basic needs to be met when installing
> something as complex as Gnome.

There is considerable testing put into GNOME on FreeBSD.  I dare say
that GNOME 2.6 is the most thoroughly tested release yet, and should
install flawlessly from packages (especially on 4.10-RELEASE since that
was the first version to ship with GNOME 2.6).  One of our team members
builds the desktop and all meta-ports at least once a day.  The
Tinderbox builds production-quality packages as components are updated.=20
If you follow all of the instructions, you shouldn't run into any
problems.

If you do run into problems, it really helps to read our bug reporting
guide at http://www.freebsd.org/gnome/docs/bugging.html, then report as
many details as possible.

Joe

>=20
> Please help to convert me from KDE ;)
>=20
>=20
> Naaman Campbell,
> Brisbane, Australia.
>=20
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