From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Fri Sep 29 18:09:59 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BB4E321DE for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 18:09:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (static-24-113-41-81.wavecable.com [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8551F7028B for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 18:09:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id v8TIDkK7004942 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2017 11:13:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) To: In-Reply-To: References: <81D84A650858BA40BF6936408052E6BC0138263988@msgdb11.utad.utoledo.edu> <77334fc4-b64e-45ed-a443-4076e47acee3@BY2NAM03FT029.eop-NAM03.prod.protection.outlook.com>, From: "Chris H" Subject: Re: Status of portupgrade and portmaster? Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 11:13:52 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=fixed MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2017 18:09:59 -0000 On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 09:38:36 +0000 Carmel NY wrote > On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 09:00:02 +0000, Thomas Mueller stated: > > >Excerpt from Jan Beich: > > > >> Why did portupgrade skip rebuilding print/harfbuzz-icu before building > >> editors/libreoffice? The dependency trees of most desktop applications > >> are so complex that the build falls apart if the upgrade tools aren't > >> robust enough e.g., ignore MOVED or PORTREVISION bumps. > > > >> In short, this is a reminder portmaster/portupgrade are NOT supported. > >> Users are on their own debugging such issues. > > > >What is the current status of portupgrade and portmaster? > > > >I haven't used portupgrade in some time, but what about portmaster? > > > >What is one officially supposed to use to build and upgrade packages from > >source? > > > >Synth, poudriere, any others? > > > >Tom > > Years ago, I was a strong supporter of "portmanager". It just worked when > others failed. They when its support wained, I started using "portupgrade". I > tried "portmaster", but it just failed way to often for my tastes. > However, after updating to FreeBSD-11, I have used "synth" exclusively. It is > fast, through and hasn't failed me yet. It took me a while to understand all > of its nuances, like how to use a "make.conf" file with it; however, it was > worth it. I would highly recommend it. FWIW I loved portmaster, but quickly found that by choosing it, I was *instantly* at odds with a large majority of the FreeBSD crowd. Eventually, I experimented with other choices, and finally landed on ports-mgmt/synth, and never looked back. Like Carmel, I found some aspects un-intuitive. But after figuring them out. I was hooked. John Marino did a wonderful job on this, and is very helpful. --Chris > > > -- > Carmel > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"